Transfer of PLANAF assets to PLAAF?

Deino · Feb 14, 2024

As it seems, the PLAN Naval Aviation has not yet handed over all its fighters to the PLAAF!?
These images - including J-11BSH no. H1084090 - are taken at one of the island bases within the STC.
(Image via @太湖军I名 from Weibo)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1757665712993190232

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1757666677712465988

Buncheong · Feb 14, 2024

Thanks very much for your diligent work and for keeping us up to speed on these developments, both are gratefully appreciated!

Deino · Feb 14, 2024

Buncheong said:
Thanks very much for your diligent work and for keeping us up to speed on these developments, both are gratefully appreciated!

Thanks a lot!

Just an idea ... are we sure, these are recent images? Or could it be some sort of disinformation or at least a "time delay" in order to cover up the true status of the "former" (?) Naval Air Brigades?

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SeriousPLANLover · Jul 15, 2024

Today something interesting came to my mind:

Why did China leave some 50 J-11 under PLANAF instead of transfering them to PLAAF like other coastal aircraft? Might that be because PLANAF plans to procure J-35 at a level that exceeds the demand from Carrier fleets (and 076 perhaps)? By having more active J-35 in operation than carriers allow PLANAF will have reserves for airframe losses and still a ground based aviation squadron under their own discretion. Procuring J-35 for this instead of J-20 or J-16 will make those aircraft also viable as carrier reserves and help PLANAF focus on only one aircraft. And they are holding onto those J-11s so that pilots and support infrastructure stays intact until J-35 comes.

Does this make any sense?

lcloo · Jul 15, 2024

SeriousPLANLover said:
Today something interesting came to my mind:

Why did China leave some 50 J-11 under PLANAF instead of transfering them to PLAAF like other coastal aircraft? Might that be because PLANAF plans to procure J-35 at a level that exceeds the demand from Carrier fleets (and 076 perhaps)? By having more active J-35 in operation than carriers allow PLANAF will have reserves for airframe losses and still a ground based aviation squadron under their own discretion. Procuring J-35 for this instead of J-20 or J-16 will make those aircraft also viable as carrier reserves and help PLANAF focus on only one aircraft. And they are holding onto those J-11s so that pilots and support infrastructure stays intact until J-35 comes.

Does this make any sense?

The 50 J11 fighter jets listed as in-service with PLANAF in English language Wikipedia is different from Chinese language WIkipedia which stated all of them have been transferred to PLAAF.

I cannot confirm which is correct, but English language Wikipedia is normally less reliable than the Chinese language version when the subject matters are related to China's military.

Deino · Jul 15, 2024

SeriousPLANLover said:
Today something interesting came to my mind:

Why did China leave some 50 J-11 under PLANAF instead of transfering them to PLAAF like other coastal aircraft? Might that be because PLANAF plans to procure J-35 at a level that exceeds the demand from Carrier fleets (and 076 perhaps)? By having more active J-35 in operation than carriers allow PLANAF will have reserves for airframe losses and still a ground based aviation squadron under their own discretion. Procuring J-35 for this instead of J-20 or J-16 will make those aircraft also viable as carrier reserves and help PLANAF focus on only one aircraft. And they are holding onto those J-11s so that pilots and support infrastructure stays intact until J-35 comes.

Does this make any sense?

Do they really „leave some 50 J-11 under PLANAF instead of transfering them to PLAAF“?

SeriousPLANLover · Jul 16, 2024

Deino said:
Do they really „leave some 50 J-11 under PLANAF instead of transfering them to PLAAF“?

Does it still make sense to have reserve aircraft for carriers? I wonder if USA has some reserves like that.

Buncheong · Nov 9, 2024

Has anyone seen or heard any news concerning PLANAF J-11 aircraft in recent months? I'm scanning Chinese language Twitter but so far haven't found anything. Just wondering if PLANAF still operates the type from shore stations (or not) ...

Deino · Nov 9, 2024

Buncheong said:
Has anyone seen or heard any news concerning PLANAF J-11 aircraft in recent months? I'm scanning Chinese language Twitter but so far haven't found anything. Just wondering if PLANAF still operates the type from shore stations (or not) ...

See here ... the 8th Naval Brigade seems to be indeed still active