Trade War with China

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Boy this Trump guy really likes to throw insults at anybody who would listen. I don't think 25 million extra Mexicans will help resolve Japan's low birthrate problems.

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Trump told Shinzo Abe he’d ship 25 million Mexicans to Japan

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President Donald Trump stunned his fellow world leaders at the G7 meeting when he said he would ship “25 million” Mexicans to Japan, which would result in Prime Minister Shinzo Abe losing his next election. During the gathering in Quebec — which ended with Trump leaving early and refusing to sign the traditional joint communique — the president was talking about what he called Europe’s immigration problem when he turned his attention to the Japanese leader. “Shinzo, you don’t have this problem, but I can send you 25 million Mexicans and you’ll be out of office very soon,” Trump said, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing a senior EU official who was in the room.

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taxiya

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Qualcomm-NXP deal still waiting for China nod: sources
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FILE PHOTO: A sign on the Qualcomm campus is seen in San Diego, California, U.S. November 6, 2017. REUTERS/Mike Blake/File Photo
BEIJING/SHANGHAI (Reuters) - China is yet to approve U.S. chipmaker Qualcomm Inc's proposed $44 billion acquisition of NXP Semiconductors , three people close to the talks said, dismissing an earlier media report that said Beijing had already greenlit the deal.

Chinese clearance would remove a long-running roadblock to the deal that has become entangled with broader trade tensions between the United States and China. The acquisition has already got a nod from eight of the nine required global regulators, with China being the only hold-out.

Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post reported on Friday morning that China had given its go-ahead to the deal, citing people with knowledge of the matter, driving up shares of the U.S. firm in extended trade.

But Reuters sources, who are close to the Qualcomm-NXP deal, said they were not aware of any Chinese approval. One of them said planned U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods expected to be unveiled later in the day could impact the process.

Qualcomm did not have an immediate comment on Friday, while NXP did not respond to a request for comment.

China's State Administration for Market Regulation, the regulator which reviews merger deals, did not immediately respond to a faxed request for comment.

Qualcomm met with regulators in Beijing last month in a bid to secure a clearance, but sources at the time said an approval would depend on the progress of broader bilateral talks and the U.S. government lifting a crippling supplier ban on telecoms equipment maker ZTE Corp <000063.SZ><0763.HK>.

Washington and Beijing have struck a deal to help ZTE back into business. However, trade talks remain in the balance with U.S. Presi
Should also tell Qualcomm that the possible Qualcomm-NXP combination should give concessions to China that matches ZTE's lost in value which increases by the day.

The message is that, if you kill my son, I will have your son to pay. Not something I want to do, but don't try me.
 

vincent

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Should also tell Qualcomm that the possible Qualcomm-NXP combination should give concessions to China that matches ZTE's lost in value which increases by the day.

The message is that, if you kill my son, I will have your son to pay. Not something I want to do, but don't try me.

Just ban the import and sale of Apple products
 

Hendrik_2000

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Now this is an excellent article. Trade war or not it is not China fault for the decline in American living standard Trumph better off appointing excellent Science and Technical adviser instead of listening to China basher like Navarro
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No more cathode ray tubes from China, says Trump Administration
A 58-page list of Chinese imports that will be subject to a 25% tariff, mainly old-economy staples, has been released by the US Trade Representative
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The US Trade Representative just released a
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Chinese imports that will be subject to a tariff of 25%, and it reads like something fished out of a time capsule buried in the 1950s.

President Donald Trump declared today that “the United States can no longer tolerate losing our technology and intellectual property through unfair trade practices.” As a remedy, his trade team fixed their sights on such Chinese exports as video monitors with cathode ray tubes, dishwashers, bulldozers, motorcycles, locomotives, as well as “black and white or other monochrome video projectors.” Cathode ray tubes disappeared from the market when plasma screens became available. Plasma screens aren’t on the tariff list, presumably because Americans wouldn’t like to pay more for the product.

The list doesn’t mention popular consumer items like smartphones, computers, and so forth which make up the lion’s share of Chinese exports to the US. Trump gets high marks for drawing attention to an urgent problem, namely the erosion of America’s technological edge, but his team has given him an ineffective policy.

The Trade Representative’s statement released on Friday morning states: “On May 29, 2018, President Trump stated that USTR shall announce by June 15 the imposition of an additional duty of 25% on approximately $50 billion worth of Chinese imports containing industrially significant technologies, including those related to China’s ‘Made in China 2025’ industrial policy. [Friday’s] action comes after an exhaustive Section 301 investigation in which USTR found that China’s acts, policies and practices related to technology transfer, intellectual property, and innovation are unreasonable and discriminatory, and burden US commerce.”

The actual list of items subject to tariffs has little if anything to do with China’s industrial policy. It looks more like a symbolic than a substantive action, an “Art of the Deal” opening salvo for negotiations.

Tariffs are not a particularly effective instrument of trade policy when it comes to China. The chart below appeared in this publication on May 6 (“
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There are some high-tech items on the list, but as
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reported last April when the preliminary list appeared, “More than 200 products on the list saw no US imports last year, including large aircraft and communication satellites, while some categories were highly unlikely to ever be imported, such as artillery weapons.”

The overwhelming majority of products slated for tariffs are old-economy staples, ranging from steel pipes to industrial chemicals to glass-molding equipment

The overwhelming majority of products slated for tariffs are old-economy staples, ranging from steel pipes to industrial chemicals to glass-molding equipment.

As the Trade Representative’s office noted in its Section 301 investigation, the Chinese government leans on foreign companies operating in China to transfer technology in return for access to the Chinese market. No law or regulation is involved, and no American companies wanted to go on the record for fear of offending their Chinese hosts. No law or regulation is involved; the quid-pro-quo of market access in return for know-how is the subject of quiet insinuation rather than overt arm-twisting.

China also buys a great deal of technology from the United States and pays for it in the form of royalties and licenses. Although China runs a trade surplus of about $360 billion with the US, the US runs a services surplus of about $100 billion with China. China steals a lot of technology, but it pays for a lot of technology as well.

It is unclear what the Trump Administration expects to happen next. “Made in China 2025” is the core of China’s economic strategy, shifting from old-economy, low-value-added industries to high tech. China has committed vast resources to building a domestic semiconductor industry, hoping to replace a large part of its $260 billion a year in chip imports. The Trump Administration doesn’t like that. Imposing tariffs on old-tech industries, though, is like busting your neighbor’s mailbox because you think he’s poaching your wi-fi signal. One action is incommensurate with the other and leads to tit-for-tat responses that always end badly.

The United States can penalize China as much as it wants; the sad fact remains that American investment in high-tech manufacturing has dried to a trickle during the past 10 years. The National Venture Capital Association’s data are shown in the chart below.

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Whether China uses fair means or foul to catch up with America in key technologies, it will do so eventually, just as America and Germany caught up with Britain at the turn of the 20th century. Trump doesn’t need an aggressive trade negotiator as much as he needs a visionary science and technology adviser. Yet Trump has yet to appoint a director of the White House Office of Science and Technology. That, rather than trade policy, is the greater concern.

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antiterror13

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Should also tell Qualcomm that the possible Qualcomm-NXP combination should give concessions to China that matches ZTE's lost in value which increases by the day.

The message is that, if you kill my son, I will have your son to pay. Not something I want to do, but don't try me.

can somebody educate me .. why Qualcomm would need Chinese approval for the merger?
 
Now this is an excellent article. Trade war or not it is not China fault for the decline in American living standard Trumph better off appointing excellent Science and Technical adviser instead of listening to China basher like Navarro
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Investing in science is not the only issue, the US also needs to properly invest in education (in its future labor force) and in developing its current labor force. The real issue is the US economic elite doesn't want to relent in milking the system at the expense of society and the country.
 

advill

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Trump is really a "dotard" surrounded by hawkish advisors who he personally like & selected. He has declared trade WAR with his compatriots G6 countries recently, and continues to irritate China with his intention to impose further tariffs. He doesn't understand the language of diplomacy or sensible negotiations.... he only thinks of himself, as a "great" dealer/biz man. I don't have to go further, as many of us have observed his "imperial" personality & pronouncements. He has his supporters, but it appears ordinary citizens and US politician have become embarrassed and tired of his diatribes. What most of the us fear is that from Trade War, Trump could "press" his BIG finger on the nuclear button & start a World War. He has remarked this to Chairman Kim of DPKR few weeks before the Singapore Summit. Sensible countries do not kow-tow to such blatant threats, as such a leader will "burn" himself out, like the Old Mad Roman Emperor Nero. I hope many American friends can accept my comments, as we Asians can be objective, frank & robust in our comments.
 
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Phead128

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US attempted and failed to impose a modern day Unequal treaty upon mighty China.

The Chinese will not allow foreign pressure using mafia style tactics to change it's trade policies.


In 19th century it as Yellow peril (they steal our jobs) and Gunboat diplomacy (Opium war) to fix Trade deficits.

China has learned from Unequal treaty and Opium wars, will not cower to Anglo-Saxon bullying and pressure.

Now China will just tell NK to not sign a deal with US, and Trump will lose his signature political summit instantly. Good bye Nobel.
 

Hendrik_2000

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Investing in science is not the only issue, the US also needs to properly invest in education (in its future labor force) and in developing its current labor force. The real issue is the US economic elite doesn't want to relent in milking the system at the expense of society and the country.

That is one of the problem the Anglo Saxon countries of US, Canada, England, Australia does not want to invest in training people in the name of effciency. They think as unnecessary expenses . Unlike Germany and Japan where they consider people as asset and not variable cost

They also does not want to invest in R&D that much thinking that doing the same thing over and over shoudl do the job . It might be so 20 or 30 years ago.But now the competition get stiff unless you can provide cutting edge technology no body want to pay you premium price

Their solution is instead of investing in R& D they just go outsourcing the manufacturing to China or any other cheaper manufaturing But by doing that they create their own competitor!
See the chart in the article above! How the R&D has been declining for decades
 
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