Trade War with China

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BoggedDown

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With android Google has monopoly in almost all of the markets so governments can take any measures to break or reduce this monopoly. For example Google must separates android from apps it developed and none of them should come as preinstalled. It should be users choice which market place to go and what apps to download. If Huawei complains to EU competition commission it may get favorable decision against blocking it out from Google Play store and its apps.
 

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In this refreshingly revisionist history, Erik S. Reinert shows how rich countries developed through a combination of government intervention, protectionism, and strategic investment—rather than through free trade. Yet when our leaders lecture poor countries on the right path to riches they do so in almost perfect ignorance of the fact that our economies were founded on protectionism long before they could afford the luxury of free trade. How Rich Countries Got Rich… will challenge economic orthodoxy and open up the debate on why self-regulating markets are not the best answer to our hopes of worldwide prosperity.
 

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Not even novel. Ever heard of
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He described exactly this problem with regards to the German economy.
Prussia back then was a backwards rural nation which couldn't compete against the UK.
 

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I put all my money on my bet here: the US won't dare to attack Iran. The reason is quite simply and quite clear. Times has changed, and we are now in a multi-polar world. .

At the time of Iraq wars, China was still aligned with the US against the USSR, while the USSR was in the process of disintegration due mainly to its own failures. The US then was a true unrivaled superpower and Iraq was a true international orphan. This is why the US - Iraq wars could be unfolded like a reality TV show of "SWAT storms a civilian house" to the audience world-wide. The Iraq wars certainly inflated, and are still inflating Washington hawks' confidence at America's ability to wage wars overseas.

Now, the Trump admin. has declared China and Russia are America's national security adversaries. China has a de facto alliance treaty with Russia. This Sino-Russia treaty states clearly that any issues involving any of the two signatories' national security warrant both countries to co-operate, and that the two countries are dedicated to safe-guard of world peace.
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Trump has soured America's relations with China and Russia simultaneously. China and Russia have every reason to find any opportunity to faithfully carry out their duties as an America's strategic adversary. If the US ever dare to touch Iran, or any other countries that the two countries regard as their friends for this matter, China and Russia will immediately act jointly to punish the US, and the consequences will be dire and deadly for the Americans. A war led by the US in Russia's neighborhood certainly is an issue threatening Russia's national security. The two signatories of Sino-Russia treaty will act accordingly. And another Vietnam war-like catastrophe is waiting for the US.

Doesn't Trump know this? You'd better bet he surely does. Then why did Trump provoke Iran so much that he even sent a lot of military assets to the Gulf? Well, he's such an overconfident guy that he always over-counts his own cards and under-counts other people's hands. He thinks he can out-fox other people with high-pressure sale techniques. But his Fart of the Deal gives him more trouble than success. His NK gamble was already ended in his disgrace. He can't afford another disaster before his 2020 re-election campaign officially starts. This is why his golf-boy Abe, Japan's PM, has to rush to Tehran, trying to help him find a face-saving exit from his Iran gamble.

Lesson from Trump's failures: don't gamble if you can't afford to lose.
He can't afford another disaster before his 2020 re-election campaign officially starts. This is why his golf-boy Abe, Japan's PM, has to rush to Tehran, trying to help him find a face-saving exit from his Iran gamble.

Trump's golf-boy Abe, Japan's PM, has net nothing for Trump from Tehran. Persian turban-men again rejected Trump's beg for a talk, leaving the Fart of the Deal man out in the cold. Too bad for POTUS.

Trump now fell into the Iran trap he made for himself. He walked away from the Iran nuclear deal due to his inflated ego, deflated intelligence and overestimation of American power. Now, what could Trump do to help him get out from the Iran trap without humiliation? No easy way really. I guess he is going to double-down his gamble because of his gambler personality. As a guy with a long record of business failures, Trump won't mind to have another business failure, even if his failure, this time, is the death of America.


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Iran leader rejects Trump talks despite Japan PM's mission
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Red Moon

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That is not what history tell us Are you saying that Japan was predestined to win the WWII because Japanese navy at that time has 10 yes 10 Aircraft carrier VS 3 for US. In fact the Japanese navy was larger than US navy at that time . but as the war goes on US can produced hundred of ships and thousand of fighter within 3 or 4 years while Japan can't because Japanese economy is 1/10 of US economy at that time

You get it all wrong what England at the onset of WW1 has the best navy and the best industry German is newbie in this game. . In both war the industrial strength of Britain and US tilt the balance of power But those industry is not there any more
What decide the WW I war is the combined naval strength of British and US. They effectively quarantined Germany and prevent food and other necessity from reaching the Germany
Germany is running out of food and other necessity forcing her to surrender It is not the battle field prowess that decide the outcome of the war. It is who has the stamina to withstand the punishment and keep on fighting

China is now the factory of the world she can produce immense amount of industrial good and weaponry once it goes to war economy. She is self sufficient in basic food like grain and meat She produce about 50% of their oil from domestic source
China is continent size economy and has hundred of million under arm if need be
China economy is now about 70% of US economy. so it is correct to say that US had never meet their peer until now
The BRI and silk road will open new avenue of energy food and other necessity from russia and central asia once it finish bypassing the sea route and decrease China vulnerability from embargo That is why China is working feverishly to built the BRI

I can go on and on why the present situation is not the same as Germany I should know the subject very well because that is my Exam essay in history during my high school year
I agree with what you say, but your high school years weren't two or three years ago, am I right?
 

Hendrik_2000

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I agree with what you say, but your high school years weren't two or three years ago, am I right?

Nope seem like hundred years ago. This is elite school and does not care for diploma every body has to undergone test if pass couldn't care if you don't have diploma they will admit you
 

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seems that us economy is stalling
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If you charge pressure step by step on a thing the collapse will come in an instant and it's violently fast.
 

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Oil tanker attacks will inflame conflict between the US, its allies and Iran

The explosions, on a vital passageway for the world’s oil supply, may prove Trump’s policy of coercion has backfired

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There was a Japanese oil tanker attacked, so looks like Iran is sending a message to Japanese Prime Minister Abe (whilst he was visiting Iran) about implementing US sanctions.

After all, the US has unilaterally pulled out of the multilateral nuclear deal and is forcing everyone else to impose maximum pressure sanctions to stop Iran's oil exports. So Iran has nothing left to lose by shutting down the Persian Gulf to oil exports.

And given that the US has publicly accused Iran of the attacks and is releasing video footage, what are the chances of Bolton getting his war with Iran?

We can see how a trade war is becoming a real war with Iran.

If the US continues its uncompromising line, it makes sense for Europe and Japan to join with China, India and Russia to defy US sanctions and reinstate the deal that President Obama signed. Economically, this combination of countries is some 3x larger than the US, so they should be able to persuade the US to yield to common sense.

And in the aftermath, the US people (and US military) should be thankful that they aren't stuck in yet another military disaster in the Middle East for the next 20 years.
 
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