Trade War with China

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13:09, 16-Feb-2019
China-U.S. trade talks taking a big step forward
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The sixth round of high-level economic and trade consultations between China and the United States have wrapped up in Beijing, with Chinese President Xi Jinping meeting the American delegation for the first time since the trade tensions between the two countries escalated in February last year.

President Xi repeatedly spoke of "cooperation" during the meeting. He said China always hoped that this dispute could be resolved through cooperation. He also pointed out "there are principles in cooperation," making the point that China's core interests aren't on the table to be traded away.

During this round of consultations in Beijing, both sides had in-depth exchanges on topics such as technology transfers, intellectual property protections, non-tariff barriers, agriculture policy, the balance of trade, and implementation mechanism for the final deal.

Based on the information that is available, it seems that the area of common ground is growing, while the list of differences is shrinking.

The two sides also sketched out a memorandum of understanding, which suggests that the talks have reached the stage of drafting an agreement that could serve as a framework for a deal, which is an encouraging development.

And both sides decided to continue talks in Washington next week, which is a further sign both sides are keen to reach a deal before the March 1 deadline.

This steady progress not only serves the interests of the countries on either side of the negotiating table – but it also benefits the rest of the world.

Major stock markets were higher ahead of and immediately after the meetings, signaling that market players are looking forward to both countries reaching a deal.

Just as Rome wasn't built in a day, complicated economic and trade issues between the world's two biggest economies can't be entirely solved within months.

The 40-year-long diplomatic relationship has had its moments of crisis, but these have been defused thanks to the wisdom of the leadership from both sides.

The news spread from the U.S. that the two leaders will soon meet again gives the world more reasons for being optimistic about the two sides reaching a fair and mutually beneficial agreement.
 
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every day CNN follows this ominous agenda against china. Time ti stop them

Have to agree here with China Foreign Ministry's claim that the western claims are absurd and ridiculous. It starts off by stating that the western backlash against Huawei is a result of unexpected aggressive foreign policy led by Pres Xi without elaborating what it is. Then proceed next to state that US has generally tried to maintain a policy of cordial engagement. :confused:

What a load of Free Press propaganda. Had to stop reading this ridiculous article. China Daily for me anyday despite what Jura thinks.
 
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Hundreds of Chinese citizens staged a rare protest Friday at an office of
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's BBVA bank in Madrid, angrily denouncing that their personal accounts had been frozen without prior warning.

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Chinese protesters allege racism after Spanish bank freezes accounts without warning
Updated 20:11, 16-Feb-2019
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Furious over their personal bank accounts being frozen without prior notice, hundreds of Chinese citizens took to the streets of Madrid on Friday in a rare protest against Spain's BBVA bank, accusing it of indulging in "racism."

Waving Spanish and Chinese flags, the protesters carried banners reading "stop banking racism," while shouting slogans such as "racist BBVA" and "we want justice," the AFP reported.

The protesters said that the bank, after arbitrarily blocking their accounts, told them that the action was taken under Spain's money laundering regulations, which the Chinese nationals vehemently denied.

"We gathered here to demand equality because we are ordinary citizens. I work in a consultancy office and I don't have suspicious transactions," Yunajie Chen, a Chinese accountant who arrived in Spain as a child and has been a BBVA client for over six years, told Reuters.

BBVA, Spain's second-largest bank, declined to comment on particular cases but said in a statement that it "does not discriminate against any clients based on nationality and treats all customers with the same criteria."

The bank said it had frozen accounts to comply with measures to fight money laundering, adding it was working to resolve the problem.

The protesters claimed that other banks have also blocked accounts of Chinese citizens and Spanish citizens of Chinese origin recently, but to a lesser extent than BBVA.

"BBVA bank is blocking all accounts of Chinese citizens, and even Spanish citizens of Chinese origin," Ding Li, a Madrid-based lawyer, told AFP, adding that not a single customer received advance warning. He also complained that BBVA is "taking a really long time to respond" to affected customers.

Media reports suggest all the banks in Spain are seeking additional documents, detailing their tax situation and income, from Chinese customers before they may re-open their blocked accounts or re-open a new account.

Dawein Ding, vice-president of a Chinese radio station in Madrid who also works for the Chinese Association in Spain (ACHE), complained that banks such as BBVA are deliberately making the process more complicated for Chinese citizens.

"For a Spaniard to open a bank account they just have to show their identification card, whereas Chinese citizens have to deliver much more paperwork such as evidence of their work like payslips and contracts," Dawein told Reuters.

BBVA declined to comment on such allegations.

The protesters demonstrated outside a major BBVA branch in the Spanish capital. They said the bank's action has led to the victims not being able to pay their bills and in some cases even tuition fees for their children.

"What BBVA and some other banks have done has damaged the legal interests of thousands of ordinary Chinese, the lives of many people have been affected," ACHE's Feng Mao said, adding that around 5,000 individuals have seen their accounts frozen by BBVA.

Spain beefed up its money laundering regulations last year. The law requires clients to give the bank a series of personal details and background information, regardless of their nationality, Reuters quoted a spokesperson for the Spanish banking association AEB, Jose Luis Martinez Campuzano, as saying.

However, Spain's economy ministry and the Bank of Spain declined to comment on the complaints of Chinese citizens on Friday.

Targeting China?
This is not the first time that Spain has targeted Chinese nationals or entities over money laundering allegations.

In 2016, Spanish police had raided the Madrid branch of China's biggest bank, Industrial and Commercial Bank of China (ICBC), over the bank's alleged weak supervision of suspected money laundering, China's Xinhua news agency reported.

Subsequently, a Spanish court jailed six ICBC staff members for committing several economic crimes, including money laundering, Global Times and Xinhua reported.

Reports in Xinhua, China Daily and Global Times stated that ICBC cooperated with Spanish authorities in the investigation, with the bank's Madrid branch also informing the Chinese Embassy in Spain that it used the latest anti-money laundering system provided by Spanish authorities to control capital.

Later in September 2017, Spain launched an investigation into ICBC's European management in Luxembourg as part of a widening probe into the laundering allegations.

In a statement following the Spanish action, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Geng Shuang asserted that ICBC had played a positive role in promoting financial cooperation between China and Spain.

"China always requires Chinese banks overseas to operate according to law. We hope Spain can appropriately and fairly handle the relevant issue according to law, and earnestly guarantee the relevant Chinese financial institution's lawful rights," Geng said.
 

localizer

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idk how people can be so gullible

just look at the wall situation

he has to get it done or his fanatic voters wont stop bitching and democrats will laugh at him

Trump will keep tariffs and threats in place even after a “deal.” It’s how he does things.
 

gelgoog

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Markets are typically elastic. If you increase consumer prices people will reduce consumption or defer it until later.
So the profits from tariffs are not necessarily that great. What tariffs cause is they change the rationale in the long term for where the product is produced.
However given NAFTA it does not necessarily mean the USA would be the place the product would be produced even if the supply chain moved. Plus, like I said before, a lot of global companies had already been moving their production chain to places like Vietnam because of labor prices. Vietnam makes more sense since it is closer to the rest of the production chain than the US.

Even if Trump got a lot of money from the tariffs it still has to pass Congressional approval to be able to allocate that money.
By declaring it an emergency he can use emergency funds, which are at the discretion of the President, and do not need Congressional approval to build the wall.
 

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UK government clears Huawei

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UK reportedly clears Huawei is a 'manageable risk' - challenging NZ conclusion
Henry Cooke
14:41, Feb 18 2019
The Huawei story shows no sign of slowing down.
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The Huawei story shows no sign of slowing down.
UK intelligence agencies have found that Huawei equipment will be a "manageable risk" to their 5G networks, according to a Financial Times report.
This finding would damage US efforts to persuade other countries that Huawei, a Chinese supplier of network equipment, is too dangerous to trust with infrastructure for the next-generation mobile network.
New Zealand itself has seemingly been receptive to those arguments, with our own Government Communications and Security Bureau (GCSB) finding a "significant network security risk" in Spark's proposal to use Huawei equipment for its own 5G network.
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That finding that has seen the proposal by Spark to use Huawei equipment halted for the time being, although the Government is at pains not to describe the situation as a "ban".

Differing views between two of New Zealand's largest security partners could prove to be a serious headache for Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern, who is battling the perception that China's relationship with NZ has been seriously damaged by the move.
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Ardern said she would not comment at length on an unconfirmed report but it sounded to her like the United Kingdom were in a similar position to New Zealand, as Huawei could still "mitigate" security concerns to such a degree that the GCSB allows it to operate.
She played down any notion that the UK's decision would change things for New Zealand.
"Five Eyes do share information. But we make our own independent decisions," Ardern said.
Australia has banned Huawei from its 5G networks and Canada is in the process of deciding whether or not it will allow it, after heavy lobbying from the US. The three countries are part of the "Five Eyes" intelligence network along with New Zealand and the United Kingdom.
But according to the Financial Times report, which is based on conversations with two people "familiar with the conclusion," the UK's National Cyber Security Centre has found there are ways to limit any risks from Huawei.
This follows a statement made on Friday by M16 head Alex Younger where he indicated the UK's position could be softer than America's.
"Everyone recognises that all countries are in different positions and we have the sovereign right to work through the answers to this," Younger said to reporters at the Munich Security Conference.
"It's more complicated than in or out."
"It's not inherently desirable that we have a monopolistic supplier of any of our critical national infrastructure."
The UK has long been more intertwined with Huawei than the US. A Cyber Security Evaluation Centre, owned by Huawei but staffed by British intelligence staff, monitors the potential risk of Huawei gear used in critical infrastructure.
Former head of the UK's Government Communications Headquarters Robert Hannigan wrote in the Financial Times last week that British intelligence never found any evidence of malicious activity from the Chinese state being carried out by Huawei.
Huawei has maintained that it is simply a company based in China that is being unfairly disadvantaged.
The company has taken out multiple full-page ads in New Zealand newspapers arguing that "5G without Huawei is like New Zealand without rugby."
Minister responsible for the GCSB Andrew Little was not very receptive to this message.
"They can bark as long as they like, but we have decisions to make about New Zealand's national security interests. That's the only thing upon which we will make a decision," Little said.
The Chinese government has also made its displeasure obvious. The state-run Global Times newspaper published a story late last week featuring several patriotic Chinese tourists who had supposedly decided not to visit New Zealand as they were offended by the Huawei decision.
Huawei is the largest telecommunications equipment manufacturer in the world.
 

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Declaring a state of emergency doesn't mean Trump can access money from a reserve. It means he can reallocate money earmarked according to a budget that has been passed by both houses and signed by the President for this emergency. So someone loses and in this case much of the money is coming from the Pentagon meant to be spent for other purposes..
 
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