Trade War with China

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taxiya

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I wonder if the C919 will start to have trouble getting American certification?
maybe, it is called escalation, or "who blinks first" or more precisely "who is the first to bleed to death". ;)

If C919 is dead, so will Boeing be dead in China. AB will be celebrating, or maybe the only aircraft maker left alive in the world. That is what the Chinese official just said, Trump is doing 杀敌一千自损八百,can be translated to "kill 1000 enemies by loosing 800 own soldiers".

What Trump is doing in my eyes is "the no. 1 of the world power trying to maintain that position by killing the no. 2, only to give that position to no.3, that outcome is guaranteed if Turmp goes along that line."
 

taxiya

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I really don't think so,, if the C919 meets the FAA certification standards, it will be certified, its that simple.
I appreciate your attitude of being honest to the technical aspect. But I never believed these standard issues are honestly technical matters. The recent example is "the collapse of Huawei/ATT contract in the name of national security". IPhone is sold en masse in China without problem. Another example is the TV broadcast standard, NTSC vs. PAL vs. SECAM. It is not really about technical merit, but about market entrance/blockade. The mobile phone network standard is based on whose (Huawei, Qualcomm, ZTE, Ericsson, Nokia etc.) proposal becomes adopted standard. These standards are forced upon every other supplier if they want to be in the game, the winner has the patent, the rest will be forced to pay loyalty. Standard equal to money and market share. If any country refuse to pay those money, they can choose not to follow the standard, but their network will be an isolated island, big lose to the countries' equipment manufacturers, Japan's failed attempt "PDC" is a good (bad) examples.

But my predicted outcome would be the same as yours "C919 will get certified if it meet the standard", but not simply (and only) on the ground of technical, rather because "Boeing is the hostage".
 

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Trump was blaming China for being unfair by undervaluing its money.

Really, who's the real culprit for making the currency of not only China but also a number of other developing Asian countries undervalued.

Well, it all happened during the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis when you see people like George Soros and other currency speculators making tons of money out of the miseries of a number of emerging Asian countries seeing the value of their money (and their stock markets) evaporating in just a number of weeks/months. Until today, the currency exchange rate of these developing Asian countries are still about the same as that during the aftermath of the financial crisis about 2 decades ago (It was moving up in favor of these countries only to be on the downtrend again when the U.S started raising rates.) So, you see here 2 instances of developing countries' currencies getting devalued not by the deliberate action of these countries but by the action of currencies speculators and the U.S. central bank.

At the time most economists were myopic (as they are now for having a short memory of how the exchange rate of these currencies got to where they are now, and not by artificially devaluing their currency at that.) for not foreseeing this would have the unintended effect of moving manufacturing jobs to these countries because of much lower cost thanks to their undervalued currencies.

The much cheaper manufacturing cost by way of the currency exchange rate in these countries is the real reason why manufacturing jobs have been moving over to these countries. There is really no stealing of jobs as such.
 
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Equation

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Bottom line is Trump doesn't know what he's doing in regards to the trade war with China. He's just appeasing to his base voters whom are not exactly China friendly and still believes that the world revolves around the "good ole boys" system. He needs to make them think that he is doing something even if the world has already changed and NOT coming back to the way it was as in which the US was the "exception" to the worlds "rules and regulations".
 

Equation

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... plus now I read about what's going to be discussed tonight with ... I think the official is 'adult film star'
Which one?:D:p

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Stormy Daniels

OR


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Karen Mcdougal

For me personally I would take Karen Mcdougal.:D;)
 
now I read
Commentary: Arrogance no way leading to good business
Xinhua| 2018-03-25 23:49:22
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In speculation over future development of China-U.S. trade relations after U.S. President Donald Trump's signing of a memorandum to impose heavy tariffs on Chinese imports, the U.S. side should be aware that arrogance is no way leading to good business.

Despite risks of harming interests of China and the United States itself, Trump on Thursday signed the executive memorandum that could result in heavy tariffs on up to 60 billion U.S. dollars of imports from China as well as harsher restrictions on Chinese investments.

Meanwhile, Trump also announced a 25 percent tariff on steel imports and a 10 percent tariff on aluminum earlier this month, triggering global criticism on his trade bullying move.

The trade protectionist policies adopted by Washington have severely violated basic trade rules built by the international community in the past several decades, and were also ruining the international image and status of the world's biggest economy.

China and the United States are each other's key trade partners. After decades of cooperation, they are no longer able to draw a clear line between their interests.

Despite competition, the two economies are remarkably complementary to each other and their relationship has been seen as a story of mutual benefit.

China has always advocated win-win cooperation and negotiated settlement of disputes. However, it will never remain silent when its rights and interests are damaged by other countries.

China has prepared and has the strength to safeguard national interests, but it also hopes that both sides could remain rational and work together to preserve the broad picture of China-U.S. economic and trade relations.

In recent years, China has promoted the development of its economic strength and technological advantages to a new level. With an optimized industrial structure, an enhanced economic resilience and a broader space for macroeconomic policies, China is not afraid of engaging in a trade war.

With a huge domestic market and a complete system of industry, China is capable of taking counter measures against hostilities.

Even so, China still underlines that it prefers to settle disputes through dialogue and consultation.

As the two largest economies in the world, China and the United States will never benefit from a trade war that may devastate global economic stability.

It is hardly avoidable for any two countries to have conflict of interests in doing business, compliance with trade rules and launching dialogue and exchange of opinions will be the only right way to solve disputes in trade.

Washington should take Beijing's stance seriously and do not be penny wise and pound foolish, which will hurt itself and others as well.
 
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