The War in the Ukraine
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That's not what I mean. That is the official Ukrainian claim on Russian casualties. Mediazona and the BBC has been collecting publicly posted information on Russian deaths and have come to a figure around 10,000.
There is a similar effort to track Ukrainian obituaries but I don't know the source.
Well the most "stunning" part of Russkiy Mir atm is Mariupol. Dunno if there are similar rebuilding attempt done in other part of Russian occupied territory, say Melitopol or other settlements.
If Bakhmut and Soledar do fall then let's see if there would be similar rebuilding attempt. Tho i would say such attempt would only be feasible when sufficient safe distance to the contact line can be achieved.
If Bakhmut and Soledar do fall then let's see if there would be similar rebuilding attempt. Tho i would say such attempt would only be feasible when sufficient safe distance to the contact line can be achieved.
this video does a good job. Although, the true casualty is unknown, we can only speculate.
Based on many sources I found all over the internet, I am estimating the consensus is likely 30k to 80k Russian death, 100k to 200k Ukrainian death. I am using death because you can only count dead 1 time. where as the same person getting hurt multiple times, that might get count as 2 casualty.
The Russians will rebuild everything on their side just like they did with Grozny. The Russians build houses out of precast concrete blocks, and they can erect multi-story buildings quite quickly.
It is the US that constantly uses energy as a playing card, just like they did with Venezuela, and with their supposed European allies as well, by blowing up the Nord Stream pipelines. Which I will remind you were owned by a consortium of Gazprom and European energy companies. The US confiscated Venezuelan oil company PDVSA's oil refineries, imposed on them secondary sanctions so they could not import refined oil products (like diesel and gasoline), and denied them access to supplies and parts for their oil infrastructure and energy grid. Some even say they were responsible for sabotage of Venezuela's energy grid with caused a nationwide electricity blackout.
If Europe refuses to buy Russian energy, deny Russia maintenance of the gas pumping equipment used to push the gas from Russia to Europe, and the US blows the transmission pipeline, then it is Russia's fault they aren't supply energy to Europe. That is rich.
What energy war? So far any problems Europe has had with energy were either self-inflicted or happened with the help of their allies. The Russians never cut energy supply to Europe although it was quite on their right to do it, after Europe sanctioned exports to Russia, confiscated their central bank foreign exchange reserves, confiscated assets of their citizens abroad, and sent weapons to a country they are in armed conflict with.
It is the US that constantly uses energy as a playing card, just like they did with Venezuela, and with their supposed European allies as well, by blowing up the Nord Stream pipelines. Which I will remind you were owned by a consortium of Gazprom and European energy companies. The US confiscated Venezuelan oil company PDVSA's oil refineries, imposed on them secondary sanctions so they could not import refined oil products (like diesel and gasoline), and denied them access to supplies and parts for their oil infrastructure and energy grid. Some even say they were responsible for sabotage of Venezuela's energy grid with caused a nationwide electricity blackout.
If Europe refuses to buy Russian energy, deny Russia maintenance of the gas pumping equipment used to push the gas from Russia to Europe, and the US blows the transmission pipeline, then it is Russia's fault they aren't supply energy to Europe. That is rich.
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Europe’s $1 Trillion Energy Bill Only Marks Start of the Crisis
- High prices could last years and aid is becoming unaffordable
- Relief on global gas markets isn’t expected until 2026
Europe got hit by roughly $1 trillion from surging energy costs in the fallout of Russia’s war in Ukraine, and the deepest crisis in decades is only getting started.
The roughly $1 trillion, calculated by Bloomberg from market data, is a broad tally of more expensive energy for consumers and companies — some but not all of which was offset with aid packages. Bruegel has a similar estimate looking at demand and an increase in prices, which was published in a report this month by the International Monetary Fund.
After this winter, the region will have to refill gas reserves with little to no deliveries from Russia, intensifying competition for tankers of the fuel. Even with more facilities to import liquefied natural gas coming online, the market is expected to remain tight until 2026, when additional production capacity from the US to Qatar becomes available. That means no respite from high prices.
Here is a twitter post where Ukraine the obituaries are referenced:
It looks like 100k+ confirmed deaths, but no date or much else.
I'm interested in who compiled the data. I assume it is from a Russian or Ukrainian language source as nothing shows up on google.
The "H4B" in the corner looks cyrillic.
According to BBC News Russian and the Mediazona news website, out of 11,009 Russian soldiers and contractors (VSRF, Rosgvardiya, FSB, PMC Wagner) whose deaths they had documented by 6 January 2023, 14.3 percent (1,577) were officers, while 16.4 percent (1,809) were Motorized Rifle Troops and 12.9 percent (1,425) were members of the Russian Airborne Forces (VDV). In addition, 4.9 percent (539) of Russian soldiers whose deaths had been confirmed were people who were mobilized, while 2.1 percent (240) were convicts. The BBC further stated that "Every week, we discover new evidence of Russian military funerals in different localities of Russia, which were not reported by local authorities. Based on these observations, we can assume that the list of confirmed losses maintained by the BBC contain at least 40-60% fewer names of the dead than actually buried in Russia." Thus, the BBC stated that the actual death toll could be 22,000, counting only Russian servicemen and contractors (i.e. excluding DPR/LPR militia).
Official data from the Donetsk People's Republic for the period 26 February – 22 December 2022:
- 4 163 killed.
According to a researcher at the Department of Peace and Conflict Research at Uppsala University in Sweden, regarding Russian military losses, Ukraine's government was engaged in a misinformation campaign aimed to boost morale and Western media were generally happy to accept its claims, while Russia was "probably" downplaying its own casualties. Ukraine also tended to be quieter about its own military fatalities. According to BBC News, Ukrainian claims of Russian fatalities were including the injured as well. Analysts warned about accepting the Ukrainian claims as fact, as Western countries were emphasizing the Russian military's toll, while Russian news outlets have largely stopped reporting on the Russian death toll.
Official data from the Donetsk People's Republic for the period 26 February – 22 December 2022:
- 4 163 killed.
According to a researcher at the Department of Peace and Conflict Research at Uppsala University in Sweden, regarding Russian military losses, Ukraine's government was engaged in a misinformation campaign aimed to boost morale and Western media were generally happy to accept its claims, while Russia was "probably" downplaying its own casualties. Ukraine also tended to be quieter about its own military fatalities. According to BBC News, Ukrainian claims of Russian fatalities were including the injured as well. Analysts warned about accepting the Ukrainian claims as fact, as Western countries were emphasizing the Russian military's toll, while Russian news outlets have largely stopped reporting on the Russian death toll.