The War in the Ukraine
- Thread starter SampanViking
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T-55 for Ukraine confirmed.
I imagine in a T-55 vs T-62 situation they will be at a disadvantage? I recall PLA did a lot of testing with that one captured T-62 against Type 59 and concluded it was much superior.
I imagine in a T-55 vs T-62 situation they will be at a disadvantage? I recall PLA did a lot of testing with that one captured T-62 against Type 59 and concluded it was much superior.
Correction on this post. Actually a Belarussian tank. Looks like Belarus is doing some practical preparations for an upcoming campaign.
Yea I'm not sure how much it'll help for missiles with active IR. Not an expert in this so perhaps someone else can chime in. It may be one of those things that can only be learnt on the battlefield.
I think 30mm fire would tear the boat apart.
This is what the 20th time they have threaten to retaliate?
And are they serious that Russia hasn't targeted NATO HQ's inside Ukraine? What are they waiting for? And I love the "perhaps" we'll target US drones pretty much saying they are not going to target US drones for some reason. Who is running this war and why is it being run so poorly on the Russian side? I'm not pro Russian but make me supreme commander (Thor) of Russian armed forces and I'll start taking out ISR aircraft in Black sea and targeting western Ukraine close to Polish border daring NATO to do something about it which I'll bet they won't.
This is not political but a fact, European gubments are wusses and will tell the US not to retaliate if an unmanned US ISR drone is shot down they don't want anything to do with a conflict over a drone especially ze Germans and French. It's kinda frustrating when you see this conflict from an outside tactical perspective knowing what on paper the Russian conventional forces can do to stop this.
Those Slovenian T-55s have the 105mm L7 gun. They also have laser rangefinders. But that gun is still worse than the smoothbore on the T-62. Iraqi T-62s easily destroyed Iranian Chieftains in the Iran-Iraq War. And then there is the whole logistics issue of putting yet another tank into service with its own ammo no other tank Ukraine has will use. But the biggest deal breaker I think is that these are just going to be 28 tanks. At Ukraine's tank loss rate they won't last 3 days.
Most wheeled assault gun have a 105mm gun without autoloader: B1 Centauro, AMX-10 RC, Type 11 etc. Surely they can't be all wrong.
Tank on tank battle would be dicey though.
plawolf
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Training is only useful when your crews can expect to survive to ‘graduate’ onto something better. So unless they want to hold those T55s back for training and propaganda photoshoots only, the training argument has little meaning if you are sending troops into combat in hopelessly outdated tanks with minimal chances of surviving any encounter against enemy tanks.