The War in the Ukraine

tabu

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SolarWarden

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I think they are, which is why Zelensky keeps begging for more. There are certainly some videos that do show the launchers being destroyed. There is nothing about HIMARS being less vulnerable over the Grads which are also constantly destroyed by both sides. In fact the Grads are even smaller.
What videos?

Zelensky begs for a lot of things especially weapon systems that are making a huge difference like HiMARS. If barely a dozen HiMARS have been able to change the course of this war what would 50 have done?
 

pmc

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Static tank you mean. Anything that is static can be taken out by satellite guided weapons if it stays static in one location long enough to be targeted. There are plenty videos of HiMARS taking out all types of armored vehicles.
it is detection of a tank and using single shot that give high accuracy to Tornado S.
HIMAR fly too high and you need to realize not many places have the advanced version of SAMs to intercept them in multi-target engagement. they may be facing Pantsir S or Tor built on 30 year old tech.
this Tornado S in real battlefield. fire like cruise missile with much less smoke.
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How many of these have taken out weapons depots to the point it causes that nation to look to other "friendly nations" for ammo?
This is a political decision as much military. Russia can easily scale tactical missiles over saturate the targets but for some in Middleast wants that more countries to there north in conflict with West.
Ukraine does not have much area defense sensors. any cruise missile intercept is right in front of target not in beyond visual range.
 

gelgoog

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It looks like these power plants are a disaster:
That is just propaganda. Both Lithuania and Poland are against the Belarus nuclear power plant project. Lithuania because they do not want a nuclear power plant so close to their capital and Poland because they do not like anything which might increase Russian influence in the region. Lukashenko wanted the nuclear power plants back then because of the continuing increasing natural gas prices. The whole point of making the nuclear power plants so close to the Baltics in the first place was possibly exporting some of the generated electricity to them and in fact this is being done with the exception of Lithuania.

Compare the construction of these VVER-1200 reactors in Belarus with the disaster that has been EPR in either France or Finland. EPR, 1.6 GW, in Finland contracted price was $6.42 billion for a single reactor. Thus far the cost to the French contractor in building it has been $12.4 billion. These two reactors in Belarus have almost the same power level each, 1.2GW, and price for two reactors was $11 billion. Payment of the reactors is being done on a 25-35 year loan at a low interest rate. And payment only began after electric generation. The fact is, it took 8 years for Russia to build these reactors, while the EPR in Finland thus far is 17 years and counting and still not fully operational.

For Belarus the reactors offer electric price stability which is something they could not get with the natural gas. As for Russia supplying the fuel there is no evidence they have been manipulating the price, and fuel is a minor fraction of the cost of operating a nuclear power plant.

But most say it was not an R-37 but a Kh-58
Might be. I just do not know why one would assume it was a Su-57 which fired an R-37 when the Su-35 and MiG-31 can do it and both are being used in theater. I only mentioned the photo because there were reports of long distance shooting downs of Ukrainian aircraft around the same time this sighting happened. A MiG-29 and a Su-27 on one day and a MiG-29 some other day. Some claimed some of the downings were done with the S-300V but I also heard claims of some R-37 long distance kills.
 

Sinnavuuty

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How long would it be able to survive without dedicated self defence suite, like PAntsir or Centurion ?
Since the Russians are a bunch of nerds who don't know how to fly their own aircraft and their sensors/avionics don't work as the West claims, I'd say they're pretty loud.
The radar will be the first priority target of everzthing posses a radar detector on Russian side.
Certainly.
This reflects what might be a new tactic. The Shaheds might be being used as bait. It becames safer for Ukraine to launch their planes in order to avoid being destroyed on the ground in the event of the kamekaze attack, while at the same time, the launched aircraft can attempt to try to intercept the drones. The Russians it seems like, are already waiting for this, they strike at the Ukrainian aircraft, which can explain the recent streak of losses. Air defenses that try to intercept the drones are also tracked by radars to the point of origination, where other drones are launched against them, which can explain the Lancets attacking Buks and S-300s.
Yup. Some Telegram channels are already complaining about this Russian tactic of using the Shahed as bait to attract the AFU aircraft and also radars to then be neutralized by Russian aircraft.
What videos?

Zelensky begs for a lot of things especially weapon systems that are making a huge difference like HiMARS. If barely a dozen HiMARS have been able to change the course of this war what would 50 have done?
Stop this. Change the disk. The propagandists have made so much noise about the Russian map of the MoD which does not contain the single word that designates what was destroyed (projectile).

Also, when it comes to propaganda, nobody does it better than NAFO and the pro-Ukraine propagandists, you are the masters of inconclusive claims. And when it comes to claims, I thought you'd do a better job of addressing a recent Russian claim, but all you've managed to do is find something from late August, you're in trouble.

Want two recent claims from your group?

It seems that Russia is running out of missiles, now they are using missiles manufactured in the year 2022. Don't worry, one hour the ammunition runs out.

The other here. That's a claim I wanted your explanation for.

Can you see the missile?

I do not.

But I have a theory. Anton Gerashchenko didn't want to report but I think this suggests that the missile was hypersonic, the missile is so fast that the camera didn't capture the image, but for sure because of the explosion it was a successful intercept, as is a Ukrainian claim, it is certainly true, after all, there are no lies in the Kiev government. I would bet on the mach 15-mach 20 range, in addition to proving that a subsonic missile is capable of intercepting a hypersonic missile just by maneuvering over speed.
 

pevade

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Since the Russians are a bunch of nerds who don't know how to fly their own aircraft and their sensors/avionics don't work as the West claims, I'd say they're pretty loud.

Certainly.

Yup. Some Telegram channels are already complaining about this Russian tactic of using the Shahed as bait to attract the AFU aircraft and also radars to then be neutralized by Russian aircraft.

Stop this. Change the disk. The propagandists have made so much noise about the Russian map of the MoD which does not contain the single word that designates what was destroyed (projectile).

Also, when it comes to propaganda, nobody does it better than NAFO and the pro-Ukraine propagandists, you are the masters of inconclusive claims. And when it comes to claims, I thought you'd do a better job of addressing a recent Russian claim, but all you've managed to do is find something from late August, you're in trouble.

Want two recent claims from your group?

It seems that Russia is running out of missiles, now they are using missiles manufactured in the year 2022. Don't worry, one hour the ammunition runs out.

The other here. That's a claim I wanted your explanation for.

Can you see the missile?

I do not.

But I have a theory. Anton Gerashchenko didn't want to report but I think this suggests that the missile was hypersonic, the missile is so fast that the camera didn't capture the image, but for sure because of the explosion it was a successful intercept, as is a Ukrainian claim, it is certainly true, after all, there are no lies in the Kiev government. I would bet on the mach 15-mach 20 range, in addition to proving that a subsonic missile is capable of intercepting a hypersonic missile just by maneuvering over speed.
I wonder if they are just covering up that the missile malfunctioned by saying that it intercepted a "hypersonic" missile. I literally see nothing, no fire, no smoke, no metal fragments from the "hypersonic" missil, not even the missile itself.
 

sheogorath

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They have? Are you talking about the pontoon bridge where Russia claims civilians were killed?
And the one around the Atonovsky bridge, the strikes on the villages around Belgorod and Kursk and so on. And no, I'm not talking about the electric substations.

If so it doesn't mean Ukraine is using HiMARS where air defenses are thinnest it could be Russians can't stop them which is a fact when you see the destruction HiMARS has brought to Russian forces.
Have they?. I'm not sure how much destruction can they really bring considering they haven't been able to bring down a bridge and has been a while since the last "they hit an ammo depot, now the Russians are really done for!!!1" event

It did bring a lot of destruction to that jail they hit with them. Destruction on their own soldiers, lol

Could also mean Russian air defenses are being depleted.
With what, exactly?. HARMS that can't tell an electric box in a park from a SAM radar?.

We have seen plenty of depletion from Ukranian air defenses the last few days, though. 3 S300 batteries disabled in a week.

What videos?

We already talked about that capture before you got here, with the correct translation being 42 HIMARS rockets being destroyed, not the HIMARS themselves, so go try be disingenous back in twitter with the other NAFO incels.
 
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Tam

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What videos?

Zelensky begs for a lot of things especially weapon systems that are making a huge difference like HiMARS. If barely a dozen HiMARS have been able to change the course of this war what would 50 have done?

There were videos two to three months back that showed their launchers and transports being take out. Also, that clip abov mentioned a hit a munition depot allegedly full of NATO supplied stuff. The HIMARS rockets are constantly and consistently being intercepted in the air.

HIMARS didn't change the course of the war anymore than the M777 did. This is like saying Germany introduced the Tiger Tank and it changed the course of the war, overhyped weapon that it is. Ukraine took advantage of Russia having a considerable part of their military being rotated and their six month contracts ended. You attacked a front that was merely guarded by paramilitaries, and even those paramilitaries inflicted heavy losses. Note that the situation has begun to reverse in the Liman direction. Kherson, the Ukrainian Army suffered massive casualties and is unable to surpress the Russian artillery. Bahkmut, Soledad and Donetsk, nothing has changed there, Ukraine is still losing territory and men despite reinforcements. You can even argue that M777 with Excalibur is far more useful, and I also think that Ukrainian bloggers are full of misrepresentation, listing success done by M777 or Panzerhaubitz falsely to HIMARS.
 

Atomicfrog

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I wonder if they are just covering up that the missile malfunctioned by saying that it intercepted a "hypersonic" missile. I literally see nothing, no fire, no smoke, no metal fragments from the "hypersonic" missil, not even the missile itself.
It could have gone for the Mig at this rate...damn the plane bypassed it !
 
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