The War in the Ukraine

baykalov

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Russian Defence Ministry report (16 November 2022):

On 15 November, Russian Armed Forces launched a massive attack using high-precision long-range air- and sea-based weaponry, at the military control system of Ukraine and energy facilities related to it. The goal of the attack has been reached.

All the launched missiles have accurately stricken the assigned targets. All the facilities have been neutralised.

❗️ We want to emphasise that the high-precision attacks were launched only at the targets located in Ukraine and no closer than 35 kilometres from the Ukrainian–Polish border.

◽️ The footage of the wreckage detected in Przewodów, published in the evening on 15 November in Poland, has definitely been identified by professionals of Russian defence industrial complex as elements of S-300 air defence guided missile of Ukrainian Air Force.

◽️ The statements of various Ukrainian sources and foreign officials on the fall of alleged 'Russian rockets' in Przewodów are a deliberate provocation aimed at escalating the situation.

❗️ We also want to stress that no missile strikes were launched at any facilities in Kiev within high-precision firepower's massive attack on the facilities located in Ukraine.

◽️ All the destructions in the residential quarters of the Ukrainian capital, demonstrated by the Kiev regime, are the direct consequence of the fall and self-destruction of the air defence missiles launched by Ukrainian forces from the foreign-manufactured air defence systems deployed within the city limits.
 

Topazchen

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Lancet takes out an 30N6E engagement radar of an Ukranian S300

Another Lancet strike on the hiding spot of an OSA. Seems to have a warhead big enough to go through the roof and cause the Osa to burn down

Oskosh supply truck disabled by a mine

Apparently an Italian RQ-4 was flying around Poland and Hungary when the accident happened.

CAESAR hit by a Lancet drone.

What's with so many videos of these Lancets of late ? the material destruction to Ukrainian Army must be massive
 

Tam

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This is why I don't take announced numbers seriously.

From Intel Slava:

”More than 30 infrastructure facilities were damaged as a result of strikes on November 15 - Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine

Earlier, the General Staff of Ukraine stated that the Russian Armed Forces fired about 90 missiles, 77 of which were shot down. Thus, it turns out that 13 surviving cruise missiles hit 30 targets."
 

tabu

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First Ukrainian cities, then Moldova, now Poland with human casualties. Maybe Ukrainian anti-aircraft engineers will reconsider their attitude to collateral damage.

In the Polish photos we can see an internal part - the bottom of the engine with a cylindrical flange. Through this flange the bottom (cover) is attached to the engine casing (shell). Which you see in the other photo. The shell is fibreglass reinforced plastic. In explosion of fuel residue from rocket fall the bottom was torn out of the cowling.

So it's definitely a SAM part.

Cruise missiles don't have tanks with bottoms that thick because there is very little internal pressure.
 

sheogorath

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Maybe Ukrainian anti-aircraft engineers will reconsider their attitude to collateral damage.

I don't think it should be considered the fault of Ukranian operators. Ukranian(and gifted) S-300's are very early variants and the missiles might have gone past their shelf life long ago and it is unlikely they have been able to procure newer missiles.

There were talks long ago of extending the service life of the stored missiles but it is likely the money disappeared without any actual work being done on them.
 

Temstar

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I don't think it should be considered the fault of Ukranian operators. Ukranian(and gifted) S-300's are very early variants and the missiles might have gone past their shelf life long ago and it is unlikely they have been able to procure newer missiles.

There were talks long ago of extending the service life of the stored missiles but it is likely the money disappeared without any actual work being done on them.
I get that some of those S300 missiles are more than 10 years past their best before date but I find it hard to square with:

1. 77 out of 90 Russian cruise missiles where shot down on the same day
2. Not one, but two such missiles ended up in Poland accidentally

That's a very consistent failing mode for number 2 to happen.
 
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