The War in the Ukraine

sheogorath

Colonel
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Just maybe if Russia had an air force like the one they like to show in airshows and displays they wouldn't need to use 50k rounds daily putting themselves in a vulnerable position like Ukraine has put them in by hitting their ammo depots.

Or hear me out, and I know this might sound like crazy talk to you but maybe, just maybe, it is because soviet( and by extension, Russian doctrine) calls for extensive use of artillery as part of combined arms warfare?. Grab a history book instead of trying to be the local branch of NAFO.

On the first day of the Soviet offensive over Berlin, around 1 million of artillery rounds were fired on German positions.

And it has been quite a while since one of these depots have been blown and the previous ones don't seem to have stopped Russia's ability to rain artillery on Ukranian positions day in and day out, so you might be overstimating their effect too much?
 

baykalov

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Russian Armed Forces strikes on Ukraine’s energy system on October 27, 2022 —
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analysis

Rybar's team continues daily analysis of the consequences of systemic destruction of Ukrainian energy system facilities.

During the day, our team recorded two hits:
▪️PS Kiev 750kV - autotransformer failure confirmed
▪️PS Belotserkovskaya 330kV - probable damage

Today's attack on the Kiev 750 substation had a much greater impact in terms of efficiency than all previous strikes on the Kiev energy center combined.

▪️At least one single-phase autotransformer 750/330kV was destroyed. The protective screens separating the single-phase autotransformers from each other could protect the rest of the transformers from damage, but the destruction of even one of the three renders the remaining two useless.

▪️The capacity of one autotransformer is 333 MVA: the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation deprived the Kiev energy district of the technical ability to receive 1000 MVA of power from the Rivne and Khmelnitsky nuclear power plants. And that's a lot.

Yes, we understand that the transformer may not have been used at 100%, but we assume that the second three single-phase transformers were damaged as a result of previous strikes (unfortunately, there are not enough facts of objective control).

▪️This is a very serious blow to the energy system of Ukraine. And the consequences were not slow to affect Kiev: a wave of unscheduled power outages covered the entire capital and region.

Despite the presence in Kiev of its own sources of generation - CHPP-5, CHPP-6 (which also suffered as a result of the strike and lost half of the generated capacity), and the Kiev hydroelectric power station, as well as the Trypilska thermal power plant in the immediate vicinity of the capital, their energy is clearly not enough for the normal operation of the power system.

This leads to the conclusion: isolation of nuclear power plants from the rest of the network and consumers is currently the most effective scenario for influencing the Ukrainian energy system.

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Atomicfrog

Major
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If these can preserve hospital it will be good but the risk is great that they will probably end in oligarch mansions... don't know what is the portion of the military that will be used to protect power infrastructures in the Ukraine west. It will be hard to call back system protecting the frontlines to shield it. New systems and equipments will probably stay in the west if they want to make some umbrella of protection.
 

Temstar

Brigadier
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Zelensky claims that the information about the Russians were withdrawing from Kherson was a fake to lure the Ukranians in.


This seems like a cope, excuses for Kherson offensive not going so well. "They tried to use the Empty Fort Stratagem on us, but we were too clever and saw through the ruse".

About equal with "friendly gesture" copes too, they indeed are siblings.
 

Sinnavuuty

Captain
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Just maybe if Russia had an air force like the one they like to show in airshows and displays they wouldn't need to use 50k rounds daily putting themselves in a vulnerable position like Ukraine has put them in by hitting their ammo depots.
I agree with you with the statement of the horrible performance of the VKS and it is also worth remembering the VMF, but your friend there questioned the great Russian logistical problems 100 km from the border when Ukraine receives daily 50,000 rounds daily affirmed by the AFU itself and western channels.

By the way, I may be being hypocritical here, because I don't consider this number to be legitimate, based on what I've read, on some fronts Russia's superiority was 10x greater, but on other fronts this superiority was far from true, and even after the introduction of Himars and all the game changer nonsense from the West, Ukrainians simply took the highest number from a front where their inferiority was 10x lower and simply gave that number to all fronts in Ukraine, which is far from the truth, I would say half would be an acceptable number, somewhere in the range of 20,000 to 25,000 spins daily.

Even maintaining this position, you still need viable logistics to sustain these daily shots, which is far from what your friend above said.
If these can preserve hospital it will be good but the risk is great that they will probably end in oligarch mansions... don't know what is the portion of the military that will be used to protect power infrastructures in the Ukraine west. It will be hard to call back system protecting the frontlines to shield it. New systems and equipments will probably stay in the west if they want to make some umbrella of protection.
This will be evaluated according to the passage of time, even more so when the massive attacks on the infrastructure only occurred from October 09/10, which is still a short space of time to know how it will influence these generators in life civilian or even military in the east and south.
 

gelgoog

Lieutenant General
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It looks like one of those long distance aircraft kills some days back with the R-37M was made by the MiG-31BM.

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27.10.2022

MiG-31 crews patrol airspace over special military operation area​

The Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation has published footage of MiG-31 fighters in combat action within the special military operation.

Crews of MiG-31 airplanes are tasked to patrol the airspace over the assigned area.

The crew detected an air target during one of its flights. Once it was confirmed that the target is a hostile airplane, the crew launched an air-to-air missile that destroyed the Ukrainian Su-24.
 

Stealthflanker

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It looks like one of those long distance aircraft kills some days back with the R-37M was made by the MiG-31BM.

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27.10.2022

MiG-31 crews patrol airspace over special military operation area​

The Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation has published footage of MiG-31 fighters in combat action within the special military operation.

Crews of MiG-31 airplanes are tasked to patrol the airspace over the assigned area.

The crew detected an air target during one of its flights. Once it was confirmed that the target is a hostile airplane, the crew launched an air-to-air missile that destroyed the Ukrainian Su-24.

Tho. unlike 1.4 m diameter Zaslon M.. Zaslon AM itself is quite potent over "vanilla" Zaslon on earlier MiG-31B's. Ideally this could solve the low flier problem (e.g Su-25 and Su-24's) S-300/400 In Luhansk, Belarus and Crimea can't reach.

Su-35 can do just as good it's perhaps they want to give war experience to MiG-31 crews.

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Earlier tho i always believe deployment of R-37 will mark something more serious like engaging NATO AEW/ISR platform.
 
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