The War in the Ukraine

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Iran is ready with Ukraine to investigate the supply of drones to Russia and promises to 'not remain indifferent'

Iran asks Ukraine to provide evidence that Iranian UAVs are being used in Ukraine

Temstar said:
I have just the footage to back this up:
https://imgur.com/73s5Cgj
What air defense doing?
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That was a MANPAD. I think I posted this video myself a few pages ago.
 
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There is a profile on Twitter that is highlighting the material losses of the AFU in Kherson:
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Iran is ready with Ukraine to investigate the supply of drones to Russia and promises to 'not remain indifferent'

Iran asks Ukraine to provide evidence that Iranian UAVs are being used in Ukraine
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"Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir Abdollahian said his country is ready to send a group of military experts to study the situation with Ukrainian colleagues regarding allegations of Iranian drone use in Ukraine."
 
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Sinnavuuty said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1584597860276137984
It looks like Kiev is going to sleep in the dark again. That's because they're intercepting 80% of the Shahed.
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That's what I was mentioning the other day, you can lie all you want about your interception rate for the twitter and reddit incels but the drones, missiles and its effect they will still be very real.

And unless you start putting the NAFO trollfarms into hamster wheels to spin some generators, twitter likes won't give you electricity either.
 
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If you've been paying attention, the Russians are making a lot of noise about a dirty bomb. The threat has been conveyed to the US via defence ministers, and apparently it will be brought up at the UNSC tomorrow.

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FWIW I think it's a credible threat. Ukraine has a lot of fissile material stockpiled at its nuclear power plants. They are ostensibly under IAEA safeguards, but they can be bypassed (e.g. Iraq and Israel).

Even without a fissile material Ukraine has tons of radioactive waste. One source of revenue for the Ukrainians has been to be a dumping ground for other countries nuclear waste. Build it into a bomb and you have an Al Qaeda style dirty bomb.

I've noticed the only time the US drops their propaganda is when WMD is involved. When Ukrainians claimed Russians attacked a NPP, the White House publically denied it. The same happened when the Ukrainians claimed chemical weapons were used in Mariupol (a claim the UK government repeated).
 
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tankphobia said:
Do the Ukrainians freeze to death without power or all their food go bad without fridges, you gotta choose one. Either way it's hard for one of the largest grain exporters in the world to starve.
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you dont seem to understand that these hits on infrastructure actually does have an effect on the frontline. the more suffering and inconvenience is brought to the rear, the more likely commanders on the front will come under pressure to seek decisive battles. this will lead to tactical errors and otherwise avoidable losses.
 
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gelgoog said:
Media speculation on that long range Ukrainian Su-27 kill.

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Extreme Range Kill on Ukraine’s Top Fighter Was a Su-57, Not an Air Defence System - Reports​

October 21

Following reports that a Ukrainian Air Force Su-27 fighter and accompanying Su-24 strike fighter were shot down by Russian forces following a strike on Russia’s Belgorod region, conflicting reports from a number of Russian and Indian news outlets have indicated that a Russian Su-57 fighter was responsible. These have contradicted earlier reports that an S-300V4 air defence system using a 40N6 or possibly a 48N6DM surface to air missile was responsible. The Su-27 shootdown, although far from the first over Ukrainian skies, was particularly notable due to the 217km range at which it was achieved - making it by far the longest ranged fighter shootdown on record. The previous record for a surface to air shutdown was held by Russian S-400 systems based in Belarus, which shot down a Su-27 over Kiev in March at approximately 150km. Should the Su-57 have been responsible, however, it would mark a major milestone in the program and make the Russian fighter the very first in the world from the fifth generation to achieve a kill against an enemy fighter.
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As Ukrainian Su-27s were operating in Russian airspace, and were confirmed to be armed primarily with air to ground rocket pods, deploying Su-57s for interception could have been considered a low risk means of gaining an air to air kill for the new fighter class. The possibility that the Su-57s were accompanied by other more combat tested fighters such as Su-35s, in case the Ukrainian Air Force had any unexpected surprises or the new fighter failed, also remains significant. Although the Su-57’s primary air to air armament the R-77M missile has only a 200km engagement range, its oversized R-37M missile can engage targets up to 400km away - with this being the missile reportedly used to intercept the Ukrainian aircraft. Footage seemingly showing an R-37M over a Ukrainian city, taken by residents, provided some support to this claim. While other secretive long ranged air to air missiles with unknown designations have also reportedly been developed for the Su-57, none are thought to have a range sufficient to engage a manoeuvrable fighter like the Su-27 at over 200km.
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The Russian-Ukrainian War has presented multiple rare opportunities for Russian assets to gain kills and be tested in combat against relatively capable enemy fighters, with the S-400 and the Su-57’s predecessor the Su-35 both having gained their first air to air kills in March over Ukrainian skies. The Su-57 is not expected to be deployed similarly aggressively, but could see further defensive air to air operations within Russian airspace.


I will also add that a Russian Air Force pilot posted pictures on Telegram some days ago about the R-37M being in use in Ukraine on the Su-35.
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Don't think Su-57 can fit R-37M internally. Su-35 is capable of firing and guiding R-37M so why use a Su-57 for this purpose unless it just so happens to be flying such a mission with R-37M either on the wings or does carry the missile in bays.

A R-37M would not be visible or recordable by residents of Kiev.
 
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