So far, seems as legit as that Mi-28W(ashing machine). Probably happened after the Makarov got refloated and sunk again.
The War in the Ukraine
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So far, seems as legit as that Mi-28W(ashing machine). Probably happened after the Makarov got refloated and sunk again.
Pro tip:
Anyone who spams NATO propaganda gets instant ignored. As do people who keep replying to them. This thread becomes much more readable.
Anyone who spams NATO propaganda gets instant ignored. As do people who keep replying to them. This thread becomes much more readable.
I think that what you're trying to do here (downplay what had happened there) and pretend that it's not as heavy loss as it seems is plainly stupid attempt. When Strelkov admits today that the losses are up to three times heavier than what he could even predict from initial reports and that many men died there. Even when mercenaries from the Wagner Group admit that Ukrainian mass artillery fire is often much better than Russian thanks to how advanced they are because they're learning from NATO and utilizing it on the battlefields we've got someone who knows better and writes - 'I can see 2 people there! So it's nothing serious!'.
I can assure you that almost all of Russian soldiers had seen those pictures already. Yet I'm sure that if you had been there that would be a great morale buster for you seeing those pictures.
Maybe let's not discuss this anymore - it happened a few days ago and today is today. If pictures aren't enough then only classified written Russian reports can help here. Until they're public let's not discuss it here because there always will be that 'it ain't that bad' guy.
I do find it amusing when pro-russian sources are only trustworthy only if they validate pro-ukrainian narratives, but otherwise go largely ignored.
Which falls on propaganda territory and beyond what's expected of this thread.
Which falls on propaganda territory and beyond what's expected of this thread.
So that's where I'm having trouble with this. Russian losses are supposedly staggering, and Ukrainian artillery is often better, and Russian did not do mass mobilization, and are still taking heavy losses ongoing. They only committed 250k troops even if at that. Ukraine has mass mobilization and NATO weapons which has reached the front lines. Ukraine still has planes flying sorties.
So other than the northern Kharkov region, why isn't Ukraine pushing the Russians back in donbass and in the Kherson region. They should be pushing back steadily every day. Am I missing something ?
not really since the start of the war they have not used higher end equipment and felt no need to because of their progress already made. its good to have a way to get rid of soviet gear
Briefing by Russian Defence Ministry
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation in Ukraine.
High-precision air-based missiles of the Russian Aerospace Forces have destroyed the headquarters of the territorial defence and battalion of the 24th Mechanized Brigade near Zolotoe and Vrubovka, Lugansk People's Republic.
In addition, 32 areas of manpower and military equipment concentration and 1 ammunition depot near Krasnopavlovka, Kharkov Region, have been hit.
The attacks have resulted in the elimination of more than 300 nationalists and up to 37 armoured and motor vehicles.
Operational-tactical and army aviation have hit 3 AFU command posts, as well as 52 areas of manpower and military equipment concentration.
Missile troops and artillery have hit 17 command posts, as well as 370 areas of manpower and military equipment concentration and 5 artillery units at firing positions.
Russian air defence means have shot down 3 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles near Krasnopolie, Malaya Kamyshevakha, Kharkov Region, and Gorlovka, Donetsk People's Republic.
In total, 165 Ukrainian aircraft and 125 helicopters, 845 unmanned aerial vehicles, 304 anti-aircraft missile systems, 3,039 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 369 multiple launch rocket systems, 1,498 field artillery and mortars, as well as 2,882 units of special military vehicles were destroyed during the operation.
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It's a war of attrition more or less... Russia didn't bring heavy reinforcements so if they cannot afford to lose, and don't need it, probably mean that they are steadily grinding more meat than the Ukraine side. Lots of scrap everywhere from both side and probably mixed up together where heavy battle occur.
It's clear that Russia hit a fierce foe armed to the teeth and having awac and electronic warfare helping him gaining data.
It's also clear that Ukraine is mainly destroyed and if Russia decide to stop after taking the south, they will destroy anything that can help Ukraine rebuild itself.
How are the Nazis in Mariupol still posting on twitter? They should have had everything cut off, yet they are still on twitter begging for help every day?
We should never hear from them again. Is Putin waiting for all their batteries to run out?
We should never hear from them again. Is Putin waiting for all their batteries to run out?
Well electricity is something which they seem not in short of. Given complexity of Azovstal, one can perhaps put solar cells in place others may not looking at. That's how they charge their phone.
Russians seems have not able to close all the exits yet.
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Other possibility is of course those are not real Azov personnel in Mariupol.
I assume they have generators down there. I doubt they are using solar panels. Any big enough to provide enough energy is going to be visible by drone.
Not real Azov personnel? They seem pretty real to me when they are begging Erdogan/the Pope/tupac to save them.