The War in the Ukraine

tygyg1111

Captain
Registered Member
good map

Russia hasn’t returned to the pre offensive positions, it’s impossible for any numbers to be believable.
Only if you don't want to believe.

I for one believe the below to be evidence of a 100% successful counteroffensive. The Ukrainians are executing a perfect example of Russian boot to Ukrainian balls style of combat. They'll have Crimea by the end of the month, and Moscow by December.
Speaking of terrain, here is video from Kherson with geolocation. You can see just how open it is and how deadly it is to cross if the other guy is calling down accurate artillery (MLRS in this case) fire
 

FriedButter

Colonel
Registered Member
So it's even worse... they had arround 35000 troops for the offensive, only them is more than 10% and they where not in the main bridgehead.

I think it’s unlikely the 128th was at full strength. Temstar also mentioned, they had many other battles and had considerable losses. If Zelensky wasn’t lying about Russia having greater manpower than Ukraine a few weeks ago. Then the 128th was probably only partially full due to manpower demand across the entire frontline.
 

Sinnavuuty

Senior Member
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Again the same source and the same type of post? Doesn't change the disk?

I don't know what these Twitter people have in their heads, it is an undeniable fact that the Ukrainians have been bombing the plant for more than a month with kamikaze drones, as well as dropping anti-personnel mines on residential areas of Donetsk, then seeing the bullshit they did and trying to claim to be False Flag Russian, weeks ago they were celebrating the explosion of a fertilizer dump and the attack on the main Dniper dam in the region that if severely damaged, the entire Kherson could be flooded. They noticed this and tried to claim that it was a Russian False Flag. Such irrational behavior has been the norm on pro-Ukraine channels since February 24th, where everyone on Twitter has now become a defense and geopolitics expert.
The trajectory stipulated by the pro-Ukraine channels:
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On the subject at hand, I need to warn this guy how an artillery shell behaves and it's not completely perpendicular as the image suggests:
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Upon reaching the vertex, the projectile falls almost in a vertical line.
 

drowingfish

Junior Member
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It's a mystery why Ukraine committed to this offensive to begin with.

The defense set up by the past military leadership under Zalzuhny was exceeding expectations.

There's some battle of Changping vibes here. Maybe Russia had insider information that waiting would make Ukraine leadership impatient, drop their previous competent military leadership and go into a 1 sided battle. It wouldn't be too surprising given how corrupt Ukraine is and how many potential secretly pro Russian moles there could be.

But yeah before when I saw the map I already realized either Ukraine has dropped the ball completely or Russia is absolutely shit at fighting. Turns out it is the former, which was the more likely option anyways.
its not a mystery really. it was a no brainer that this was the only option available for ukraine offensively. I have been saying for months that this is exactly what Ukraine should do, bomb the bridge and then attack. it is the same as I have been saying for russia since the start of the war, take out the bridges on the dnipro river to cut lines of communications. that this offensive happened in the manner that it did should surprise nobody. if at first ukraine did not have the means to hit the bridges, when they obtained that capability in HIMARS, this offensive became a possibility for them.

the only thing we don't know is if ukraine can execute this well. if they cant, then as i said before it will be their kursk, as their offensive capability will be invalidated. it seems to me that kiev gambled a lot of their resources into this sector, if they don't push russia out, then they are in big trouble. this is because we know that russia is building new volunteer units. if it is able to drastically expand its forces in ukraine through these volunteer units, then it just might break the current stalemate in the east. both sides are stretched pretty thin so if russia is able to suddenly commit fresh units in quantity then it may knock ukraine off balance.
 

Atomicfrog

Major
Registered Member
I think it’s unlikely the 128th was at full strength. Temstar also mentioned, they had many other battles and had considerable losses. If Zelensky wasn’t lying about Russia having greater manpower than Ukraine a few weeks ago. Then the 128th was probably only partially full due to manpower demand across the entire frontline.
If they were 3000 and not 4000, it doesn't change the situation a lot... they where not even in the grinder and got destroyed. I don't want to see these fields after the Russian close that hellpit.
 

Atomicfrog

Major
Registered Member
Again the same source and the same type of post? Doesn't change the disk?

I don't know what these Twitter people have in their heads, it is an undeniable fact that the Ukrainians have been bombing the plant for more than a month with kamikaze drones, as well as dropping anti-personnel mines on residential areas of Donetsk, then seeing the bullshit they did and trying to claim to be False Flag Russian, weeks ago they were celebrating the explosion of a fertilizer dump and the attack on the main Dniper dam in the region that if severely damaged, the entire Kherson could be flooded. They noticed this and tried to claim that it was a Russian False Flag. Such irrational behavior has been the norm on pro-Ukraine channels since February 24th, where everyone on Twitter has now become a defense and geopolitics expert.
The trajectory stipulated by the pro-Ukraine channels:
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On the subject at hand, I need to warn this guy how an artillery shell behaves and it's not completely perpendicular as the image suggests:
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Upon reaching the vertex, the projectile falls almost in a vertical line.
Anyway a fast Paint drawed line on a picture is an evidence ?
 

Temstar

Brigadier
Registered Member
RYBAR update again:
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Russian Su-34 bombers dropped almost two dozen tons of FAB-500 bombs on the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Bezymenny. The living force of the enemy, equipment and a tiny ghost village ceased to exist.

At the same time, the Russian army aviation worked out the manpower of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the triangle Sukhoi Stavok - Kostromka - Karlomarksovskoye - Bezymennoe.
 

Tam

Brigadier
Registered Member
Russia isn’t in a position to body count anything. Those numbers are pure delusional nonsense.

They actually are. They got the air superiority that allows their drones to loiter and count bodies, whereas with Ukrainian drones, they get shot down. It also appears that the Russians may have more infiltrators behind Ukrainian lines that call on the artillery strikes.
 
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