The War in the Ukraine

There are reports that Novoluganskoe with power plant start to fall. We have reports about Vagner troops and DNR/LNR troops advancing in the area.

And we have those vids of Ukrainian deserters that had abandoned positions and now post open video about they fate.

Souvenir...

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@Yommie, reduce your Twitter sharing volume per hour (i.e. Spamming) or we will get T-U-P on you for a longer vacation. Any further discussion on Yommie will be deleted, thank you.

The US "game changer" M777...

Why the Institute for Study of War cannot be considered a trusted source

David Goldman is an American that runs Asiatimes

han1289 said:

Both sides using badly shot videos or pixelated images to craft whatever story they want for the "we're winning the war" narrative

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Blurry shots taken from the Russian side? Same with that other phase array. Are you familiar that fake radar installations are a real thing and deployed as decoys? Sharp enough to assume it's an S-300 but too blurry to prevent you from telling apart the real thing from a fake. Too convenient. It seems they the Russians want you to believe an S-300 is destroyed for their own sneaky tactical reasons.

From what I've been reading, Russians are re-organising their forces and calling up new reserves/volunteers for a bigger Donbass offensive ("the final push". Exactly when it will start is impossible to tell but probably September at the latest. Possibly in August.

Russia has not conquered as much territory as some thought it would but that is mostly because Ukraine has traded blood for land. Their losses are very high (most realistic estimates put total KIA+MIA at well above 70K). The donbass is also very industrialised and has lots of urban centers, which makes it easier to defend than to attack.

Once it falls, further progress should be easier.

RottenPanzer said:

(I don't know if this against the rules and please warn me if it is but i think this is quite a big of a deal and possibly a huge blow to Russian side)

It seems Russian S-300 missile system has been destroyed by HIMARS in Kherson area, though the Russian claimed it was only a dummy model of
S-300 to bait HIMARS out to reveal its location

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Oh so this is what you meant some days ago.

One thing to note is that the engagement radar 30N6 or 92N6 seems to be missing and there appears to only 2 launchers destroyed. The question is "where were the others ?"

The Russian deployment of S-300/400 batteries so far or as far as their MoD shows always have the engagement radar and multiple launchers about 6-8 of them. I would expect more vehicles to be hit tho given that the Russians doesnt really seems to deploy them far apart.

Here is an example in Belgorod.



Notice the tight spacing of launchers and 1 engagement radar ahead of it. The engagement radar is important as it's the one launching the missile. But in the video only launchers and a command/signal vehicle are present.

Strangelove said:

The US "game changer" M777...


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I don't get it? Did you think an M777 was some sort of invincible super weapon? They will inevitably be destroyed or damaged just like any other Western piece of equipment donated to the Ukrainian war effort. It doesn't matter if it was donated by the US or any other nations equipment. The question is did it provide or prove to be an effective platform before it met its end.

SlothmanAllen said:

I don't get it? Did you think an M777 was some sort of invincible super weapon? They will inevitably be destroyed or damaged just like any other Western piece of equipment donated to the Ukrainian war effort. It doesn't matter if it was donated by the US or any other nations equipment. The question is did it provide or prove to be an effective platform before it met its end.

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Friend, when he shows a pile of wreckage, you should understand that this is an ironic tone.