The War in the Ukraine

FADH1791

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I heard an info that the Ukrainians are setting some sort of Defensive line along Seversk-Bakhmut area dubbed as "Zelensky Line", tho i don't really know how fortified this area is...
Only thing is Seversk is being attacked now. I can see that town fall by the end of this week. Which means the third and final line of defense is Slaviansk/Kramatorsk.
 

Abominable

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Destroying logistics, weapon storage and command posts has far bigger affect than killing with one missile a handful soldiers. Let the artillery do its job of grinding the meat. It isn't called "King of all battlefields" for no reason.
Wrong. Killing or disabling soliders is far more effective than destroying anything else. Equipment can be replaced, soldiers can't.
 

drowingfish

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I heard an info that the Ukrainians are setting some sort of Defensive line along Seversk-Bakhmut area dubbed as "Zelensky Line", tho i don't really know how fortified this area is...
looking at a map there is a river running along these municipalities. further to the west there is also a bit of high ground. holding this line is doable provided they have sufficient fortification and fire plan.
 

Black Shark

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Wrong. Killing or disabling soliders is far more effective than destroying anything else. Equipment can be replaced, soldiers can't.
Like I said. Artillery have inflicted over 60% of the casualties on Ukropians. They are far better and safer to use than Attack Helicopters for this specific role. Equipment needs to be destroyed where ever it is concentrated. This will reduce the risk of it being used against our forces.
 

Temstar

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Remember when we discussed Mr Su's theory from last week's Guanqi?

Specifically:
Mr Su reckon US would've only agreed to this (agreeing to all but one of Turkey's condition to let Finland and Sweden join NATO) if Whitehouse is despite and throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. That be the case they may soon (like this week or next week) unilaterally remove the Chinese tariff.
Well we've just got news confirming this a few hours ago:
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Announcement could come as soon as this week.

Assuming this does go down, Putin is going to see this and think "well the old man has already lost one war just now, why not two?" He's for sure going to stretch this war till winter. When the days are short and nights are long and the cold wind sweep down from the Urals and across Europe he's going to turn off the gas entirely and increase he's attack at the same time. There's going to be a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth when Russians come again with General Winter.

He might as well get himself a chair made up of NLAW and Javlin and Panzerfaust and Stingers, a fur coat and a big sword to act the part.
 

Temstar

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Thing is, considering the chances of a Democratic defeat in the mid-terms and 2024 are quite likely in the face of their inaction and uselessness, Tariffs might make a return in a Trump repeat with Ukraine completely thrown under the bus by then.
Won't that be the same logic as the 65th Kherson Counterattack? It didn't work the previous 64 time, but this time!
 
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