There will always be risks. Let’s not forget the Tianjin Airport fiasco last year.
The War in the Ukraine
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There will always be risks. Let’s not forget the Tianjin Airport fiasco last year.
Nope US won't have problems destroying Ukraine ADs.
- For one, US has a lot more ISR drones than Russia; stealth and high attitude ones. Russia has only the Orion and even not that many.
- US has a constellation of ISR satellites that can provide a near complete radar picture of AD systems in Ukraine.
- Couple Points 1 and 2 with decoy cruise missiles to trigger AD system
- And then lastly, US fighters, although short legged, can destroy UAF and subsequently launch Anti-Radiation missiles at these sites.
Russia lack of satellites, high altitude drones, and dedicated EA aircraft are the issues.
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So how come the Iranians shot down that US Global Hawk? This isn't the 1950s anymore, you can't have high enough altitude ever against something like the S-300PS or even Buk.
It is true Russia does not have the dedicated aircraft to do this. The Su-24MR is meant to be replaced with the Su-34M with ECM pod but this is still in testing. However, like I said, Khibiny has similar albeit more limited capabilities.
As for radar satellites, you won't have constant coverage, and Soviet IADS is mobile by design.
It is true Russia does not have the dedicated aircraft to do this. The Su-24MR is meant to be replaced with the Su-34M with ECM pod but this is still in testing. However, like I said, Khibiny has similar albeit more limited capabilities.
As for radar satellites, you won't have constant coverage, and Soviet IADS is mobile by design.
next decade? Even in 20 years it won’t be ready
PAK DA will enter service before any European stealth fighter. That is for sure.
They are already building the prototypes.
It is funny to joke about Russian 5th generation aircraft when France and Germany have zero such aircraft. No country in Europe operates heavy bombers other than Russia. Let alone build them.
As I like to say to detractors, Russia has more stealth fighters than Germany, France, and the UK combined.
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High altitude drones are important because they can trigger the long-range AD leading to geolocating its position back to others.
Once these AD sites are triggered and destroyed, destroying the remaining medium and short range systems can be achieved by these high altitude drones which can loiter and maintain near persistent coverage on the battlefield.
It's completely fine if they get destroyed as long as their sacrifice leads to their destruction of dangerous systems.
I can't speak to Iran shooting down a US drone during peacetimes. What? Do you expect US to start a war over a drone. If I recall US brought their raptors to escort these drones and that scared the Iranians away.
Different situation and context not applying to Ukraine.
like the Su-57 is ready since a decade, the three Carrier Battle groups and whatever!
Does the UK not have some F-35s in service?
Russia has a modern Air Force with low average age of airframes. They bought their Su-35 less than a decade ago. So they had no reason to make large orders of the Su-57.
Once the Su-35 airframes get like 20 years old they will start being replaced.
The UK has less F-35s than Russia has Su-57. And they are all F-35Bs for the carriers. So short legged VTOL aircraft with low payload.