The War in the Ukraine

Tam said:

Russian soldier uses a TM-62 land mine like a very large grenade into a house with Ukrainian soldiers, allegedly six of whom were inside. This same guy previously used a TM-62 land like a demolition explosive on a house occupied by Ukrainian troops. This action took place somewhere in Niu York.

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Tam said:

Third time someone used a TM-62 land mine as a grenade, hurling it to a Ukrainian holdout. These actions with the TM-62 are all occuring in the Russian assault in Niu York.

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Soldier30 said:

TM-62 mines began to be used to storm buildings in Ukraine. The Russian army began to use TM-62 anti-tank mines in Ukraine as grenades, and several cases have already been recorded. Why is this done? This method allows you to avoid storming the building, since the mine actually destroys the building. It is worth noting that with this method of assault, the soldier himself may receive a concussion. Presumably, a hole is drilled in the TM-62 mines and a grenade fuse is inserted there, since the video shows a soldier pulling the pin from the mine.

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That's nuts. It's dangerous enough that one method is to emplace the mine, pull the pin, and run away. But to *first* pull the pin, chuck the mine into the building, and run away? JFC. It looks like the throwers are barely getting away in time -- and that's when things go *right*. Imagine if one of those guys in the videos had misjudged the toss, and instead of going through the opening the mine had hit the building and bounced back.

Rank Amateur said:

That's nuts. It's dangerous enough that one method is to emplace the mine, pull the pin, and run away. But to *first* pull the pin, chuck the mine into the building, and run away? JFC. It looks like the throwers are barely getting away in time -- and that's when things go *right*. Imagine if one of those guys in the videos had misjudged the toss, and instead of going through the opening the mine had hit the building and bounced back.

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One of the guys, I think the second time it happened, he suffered a concussion himself.


Other things unrelated.

Site occupied a Ukrainian UAV crew destroyed by Russian paratroopers.


That Yak-52 with the machine gun isn't as good as a UAV defense letting that Russian drone to loiter and target over its airfield near Odessa. Iskander visited soon after, destroying the plane, some Bayraktars and spotter UAVs, kamekaze UAVs, and a hanger full of equipment.


The 238th Artillery Brigade knocks out a Ukrainian BM-21 Grad.


Artillery from the Group of North hitting Ukrainian positions in Volchansk with Krasnopols.


LMUR takes out a Ukrainian shelter, allegedly killing 12 personnel within it.


Ukrainian shelter occupied by troops, hit by a Krasnopol, with an Orlan 30 doing the targeting. This is at Yasnobrodovka.


Incendiaries fired from a Grad arriving at Ukrainian positions.


FABs or X-38ML arrive at Ukrainian positions near the Kharkhiv front.


Low voltage equipment plant in the Kursk region attacked by a Ukrainian kamekaze UAV.


Krab SPG gets knocked out in the Kharkhiv region.


Ukrainian field ammo depots knocked out by the 2nd Artillery Brigade in the Seversk region.


FABs arrive on Ukrainian positions in Gorlovka.


Ukrainian D-20 howitzer taken out by Lancet strike near Liptsy.


Ukrainian PVD in a building hit by a large FAB with UMPK at Mykolaivka, Kherson.


Ukrainian SPGs knocked out by Lancets near Podoly.

Rank Amateur said:

That's nuts. It's dangerous enough that one method is to emplace the mine, pull the pin, and run away. But to *first* pull the pin, chuck the mine into the building, and run away? JFC. It looks like the throwers are barely getting away in time -- and that's when things go *right*. Imagine if one of those guys in the videos had misjudged the toss, and instead of going through the opening the mine had hit the building and bounced back.

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No different from slinging a Satchel Charge? In which case it's a tale as old as time.

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Comparitive size to other hand chucked explosives ...



To be fair, the TM-62 improvisation is a jury rig thing.
The plate trigger pressure on an AT mine is usually beyond that of a human weight so throwing an armed AT mine is not likely to cause it to go off. Per one of the posts, the TM-62 is modded with a hand-grenade fuse which acts as the time-delay det to set off the hi-ex in the TM-62. But hey, if you have a crapload of AT mines and your enemy is short of tanks ...

[pedant] I've overwatched mine laying before. You emplace, you arm - you don't run away, you walk calmly away [/pedant]

The use of TM-62 mines seem to be as an ad-hoc demolition charge, seeing how the end result is that the building always comes down crashing down due to the size of the explosion.


Interesting video of a Buk battery. I think the most unusual aspect in this video is the use of a vehicle with the radar on a mast while using a radarless reload vehicle to engage the targets


A control system that seems to link drones videofeed with targeting data


Use of an unmarked civilian truck to transport military equipment

Reports of a "retired" USAF officer who died "in his hotel room" in Kiev just 10 days after arriving.

Heliox said:

No different from slinging a Satchel Charge? In which case it's a tale as old as time.

For perspective ...

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To be fair, the TM-62 improvisation is a jury rig thing.
The plate trigger pressure on an AT mine is usually beyond that of a human weight so throwing an armed AT mine is not likely to cause it to go off. Per one of the posts, the TM-62 is modded with a hand-grenade fuse which acts as the time-delay det to set off the hi-ex in the TM-62. But hey, if you have a crapload of AT mines and your enemy is short of tanks ...

[pedant] I've overwatched mine laying before. You emplace, you arm - you don't run away, you walk calmly away [/pedant]

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I wonder how long it will be before they try drone dropping these.

They have already been cases where UAVs were used to place AT mines in unexpected places to catch the opponent out. Should be very simple to do the grenade fuse swop and just tie a string to the pin so when the mine drops it also sets the time delay fuse.

If they can make it work, drone bombing will get a hell of a lot more spicy.

The 238th Artillery Brigade nails a Ukrainian ammunition depot in Novoselidovka. Correction Guards Artillery Brigade in lieue of its exploits.


Ukrainian shelter is knocked out by a Krasnopol with an Orlan-30 lasing it. Target is at Yasnobrodovka.


Krasnopol, with an Orlan-30 lasing, takes out a Ukrainian crossing in the Volchya River at Volchansk.


AHS Krab SPG knocked out in the Kharkhiv front by the Group North of Forces.


FABs and RBKs arriving on Ukrainian positions near Volchansk. The first scene had secondary explosions reminiscent of an MLRS or AD system having a cook off.


RBK-500s used on Ukrainian positions.


Precise hit on a moving Ukrainian vehicle.


LMUR strike on a Ukrainian PVD, this time at Burgunka.


Ukrainian Grad MLRS knocked out by the 238th.


More glide bombs arriving in Volchansk.


According to one report, a large Ukrainian ammo depot in Lipchanovka near Izyium was discovered and struck by Gerans, alledgedly destroying 400 tons of ammunition, two hangers, six trucks and fifteen personnel. The hangers were discovered by tracking a truck and watching it unloading.


MT-12 Rapira at work, legendary for it's accuracy. The gun is popular with both sides of the conflict.


2S43 Malva of the North Group of Forces grazed by fragmentation from a HIMARS attack. Armored cabins proved their worth.


Ukrainian tank hides into its hanger. But according to the commentary, a Lancet struck through the hole in the roof of the hanger. In my opinion, this is more of a Krasnopol strike hitting through the roof into the target below.


Ukrainian SPG gets a direct hit. I believe this to be the 238th. It's hard to tell if this was an AS90, Krab or M109, as the three look alike from the top.

Another s300/400 battery taken out by cluster ATACMS

SolarWarden said:

Another s300/400 battery taken out by cluster ATACMS

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They need to start equipping these batteries with more short range and mid range missiles. The long range missiles are kind of useless against such targets as each battery can only have a few of them making them useless against massed attacks. The S-400 system can use these, but they just don't assign them to units.

In the long term they need to produce more Buk-M3 or S-350 systems. Those can carry more missiles and are harder to saturate.


Buk-M3


S-350

sheogorath said:

Use of an unmarked civilian truck to transport military equipment

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1812945824764096968

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Ukrainian military logistics has been using civilian trucks and trailers to transport ammunition directly to distribution points in the combat zone.

This was clear in these images and also in an image of a Russian drone that directed artillery fire to destroy a warehouse when large quantities of ammunition were being discharged. In the video it is possible to observe the secondary explosions, typical for these cases.

What else is new. Ukraine were transporting armed soldiers in civilian ambulances back when the invasion started.
They got caught on tape when an Al-Jazeera film crew recorded them doing this.