The War in the Ukraine

HighGround said:

What a guy honestly. Surviving so long on the front-line is no joke. Not surprised that he's in a unit that is either lower priority or has low morale.

Why would Russians risk their lives to save a foreigner? Camaraderie and brotherhood will obviously be a problem in these mercenary type units.

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To be fair, both the Russians and Ukrainians abandon their own. As far as I can tell and based on all of the personal accounts I have listened to, leaving no man behind is more of a Western concept and is found among only certain Ukrainian units and the legitimate Western foreign teams, but even that concept is being shaken hard due to both sides using wounded soldiers as bait.

HighGround said:

I don't consider Russians losses to be light, but some people do give unreasonably high numbers.


I am also very skeptical of Ukrainian loss claims, which are widely considered to be fewer than Russia's. Yeah, Ukraine is on the offensive less often, but they are under far heavier bombardment and are generally at a significant fires disadvantage.

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Agreed.

HighGround said:

What a guy honestly. Surviving so long on the front-line is no joke. Not surprised that he's in a unit that is either lower priority or has low morale.

Why would Russians risk their lives to save a foreigner? Camaraderie and brotherhood will obviously be a problem in these mercenary type units.




I don't consider Russians losses to be light, but some people do give unreasonably high numbers.

I am also very skeptical of Ukrainian loss claims, which are widely considered to be fewer than Russia's. Yeah, Ukraine is on the offensive less often, but they are under far heavier bombardment and are generally at a significant fires disadvantage.

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Ukrainian losses must align and collaborate to as to why they are now so short of trained personnel and people so willing and desperately fleeing across the border in droves.

The Chinese volunteer is likely with the Pyatnashki international brigade. They have been used as storm troopers with great effect, as they have been highly notable in the breakthrough in Avdiivka. Lately they have been deployed to storming operations in Chasiv Yar, and they have their own drone troop hunter killer detachments. I won't call it low priority, although they are not highest priority either. They are not used as the tip of the spear but more like followup backup assault after the first.

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Ukrainian T-64BV and soldier defected and surrendered to Russian forces. Drove it's way through the front line after contacting the Russians for surrender.


Ukrainian base in the northern front gets hit with an ODAB-1500. Tall buildings and high rises are also frequently used as communication and observation sites, sniper and ATGM posts, and UAV launch sites. Military activity can be confirmed by the presence of camouflage uniformed personnel and military vehicles at the site.


Ukrainian commando boat in the Dniepr gets hit by an FPV drone.


Building used as a base and observation post by Ukrainian forces in Chasiv Yar gets hit by TOS.


Battle for Volchansk. A Kozak betrays a hidden Ukrainian field ammo depot and subsequently destroyed by artillery. Russian artillery also destroyed bridges and crossings all throughout the city to cut off Ukrainian retreat or resupply.


M777 destroyed by counterbattery from the Ukrainian point of view.


First a Bradley gets hit, then another Bradley comes to rescue the crew of the first and it also gets hit. Near the village of Sokol. This reaches around the 71st visually confirmed kill of the Bradley in the SMO in open source.


FABs arrive on Ukrainian positions in Torestk.


A damaged Ukrainian SPG being recovered by a tractor. First the tractor gets hit by a Lancet and the fire spreads to the SPG.


Russian flag hoisted in the center of the city of Krasnogorovka. By the 5th Brigade of the 1st Donetsk Army.


Russian soldiers in Volchansk chillin' with two surrendered Ukrainian soldiers.


Lancet hit on a Ukrainian Gvozdika SPG.


Ukrainian Gvozdika SPG destroyed by Krasnopol in Veseloye, in the Kharkhiv region.


FAB-1500 arrival on Volchansk industrial plant.


Pzh2000 gets Krasnopoled in the village of Bayrak, Kharkhiv region.


Ukrainian IFV hit by Lancet by the 3rd SPN Brigade near the the village of Dykeevka, near Torestk.


Four FABs arrive at Ukrainian positions in Makarivka. These could be FAB-250s on UMPK or UMPBs which usually arrive in clusters of four.


Ukrainian field depot full of TM-62 mines detonated by Russian drone near Spirne in the Seversk direction.


Maxxpro MRAP gets hit head on by an FPV drone from the Vega SPN.


Base of Ukrainian UAV operators gets hit with Krasnopol at Pereizne.


FAB but could be ODAB, hits a Ukrainian temporary deployment points in Volchansk.

"You have to be willing to relearn everything that you've been taught, which is, I think, one of the reasons why some of the Ukrainian soldiers are doing so well out there, because they don't have any base where they've been taught," he said.

"Meanwhile, a lot of the Westerners, they already have a set idea about how things should be and everything, and it's just not that way out in Ukraine."

He said foreign fighters need "a willingness to learn and a willingness to give up everything."

Some members of the military and experts have said that

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from the soldiers who have real-world experience against Russia's military.

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This is why China not having a large number of experienced soldiers compared to US might not be a bad thing. Having large number of soldiers with the wrong type of experience and training could also be a burden.

A lot of launches, not sure they are atacms but any long range missile systems will saturate a target with that many rounds, even more if they are using cluster ammunitions. The big question is how many they have in the stockpile ?

This Voronezh-DM looks like being hit hard

The hole looks like it was hit by a suicidal fixed-wing aircraft, 、Russia can't even effectively protect with its own early warning radar.

LawLeadsToPeace said:

To be fair, both the Russians and Ukrainians abandon their own. As far as I can tell and based on all of the personal accounts I have listened to, leaving no man behind is more of a Western concept and is found among only certain Ukrainian units and the legitimate Western foreign teams, but even that concept is being shaken hard due to both sides using wounded soldiers as bait.

Agreed.

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Well to be fair it's because of the change in the form of the war, the Ukrainian war has now become a total war instead of the blitzkrieg that it started at the beginning of the war.

The BTG formations of the Russian army at the beginning of the war were a reflection of the fact that Russian equipment was far superior to manpower, so we can observe strange scenarios like Russian tank battalions' death rushes in order to reinforce besieged friendlies as well as Russian commanders permitting frontline soldiers to take leave and return to their home countries to attend their weddings during the Kherson Counteroffensive.

Now with the beginning of Russian mobilization, Russian manpower far exceeds equipment, so we can see unsealed T55s and T62s, all kinds of strange volunteer battalions and BARS units. Individuals become less critical to the Russian commander, or simply because he doesn't have enough carriers to get people back.

In general I would say Russia is like "Tomorrow, there would be no shortage of volunteers and no shortage of patriots." now. I'm looking forward to see if the West can maintain "Left no one behind" if they openly deploy troops into this overall war.

Shadow_Whomel said:

The hole looks like it was hit by a suicidal fixed-wing aircraft, 、Russia can't even effectively protect with its own early warning radar.

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Maybe because they believe Ukrainian patrons would be kind enough to explain that it's not something you want to play around. But they did anyway. If Russia dont respond with nuclear retaliation it's then become dopamine booster for the Ukraine but unfortunately not much else.

Santamaria said:

However it is important to notice that most of Russian loses were either Wagner fighters, either prisioners recruited, either militias of Donbass (that are now 1st and 2nd army corps).

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Yes, probably the elements with the most combat experience that Russia had at that time, the militias in Donbass with 8 years fighting against the Ukrainians, the Wagners with combat experience in several conflicts and in many cases better armed than the soldiers of the Russian Army average....

I don't know how you can accept that the majority of Russian casualties are the most experienced men in combat that the Federation had... That by looking for excuses you have become a champion.... The VDV have been destroyed in their first deployments, do not forget

Ukrainians trying to rebuild some crossings across the Volchya River using pontoon bridges. Multiple LMUR strikes taking out the bridges and the vehicles near them.


Russians are using some new incendiary bomb dropped from drones.


Lancet strike on a hidden Ukrainian self propelled gun in the Kharkhiv region.


Russian FPV drone hits a Baba Yaga. Drone vs. Drone.


1st Tank Army with it's 47th Division has entered Ivanovka from Kislovka in the Kharkhiv region. Change that to Captured.


Volchansk railway plant gets hit with an ODAB-1500. The plant has a significant concentration of Ukrainian forces there.


Watching a winged FAB/ODAB strike from the ground.


Ukrainian kamekaze drones struck a Russian air base in the Krasnodar region. Two Flankers might be possibly damaged. Su-34 without wings is obviously a fake. Can't say how many planes in the base might be fake.


Ukrainian counterattack in progress. One Bradley went down, and another Bradley rescued the remaining survivor. The second Bradley escaped the artillery, possibly equipped with BRAT package.


Ukrainian drone tried to ram an Orlan-10 but failed.


Ukrainian ARV recovering a damaged SPG got hit with a Lancet. The resulting fire spread to the SPG.


Aftermath of a Russian strike. Bunch of destroyed Ukrainian vehicles, looks like a Kirpi is among them.


Saturation MLRS attack on Ukrainian positions seems from a drone with a thermal imager.


Battle of Chasiv Yar. Two IFVs of the 98th VDV suppressing a Ukrainian position in a building with automatic 30mm fire. Other defensive positions in the high rises in the area gets hit with a TOS.


TOS against Ukrainian positions.


Ukrainian tank gets hit by FPV drone in the stern. By the Beaver detachment, now redeployed in the Kharkhiv region.


FH-70 howitzer taken out by Lancet in the Zaporozhye front.


Archangelesk, settlement near Ochertino, has fallen to Russian hands according to the MoD. Avdeyevka front.

LawLeadsToPeace said:

To be fair, both the Russians and Ukrainians abandon their own. As far as I can tell and based on all of the personal accounts I have listened to, leaving no man behind is more of a Western concept and is found among only certain Ukrainian units and the legitimate Western foreign teams, but even that concept is being shaken hard due to both sides using wounded soldiers as bait.

Agreed.

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In full artillery bombardment... you just piling up bodies if you try to get all your wounded/dead back. It's just fantasy to get them all back in full war zone.

It's already sad like it is, no need to turn the knife in the wound. I remember the poor lad retrieving wounded in a mine field to get his leg blown off last year. Imagine that with mortar and fpv raining at the same time.

Human losses are disastrous on the front for sure, Ukrainian using forced conscript vs Russian using convict surely not helping the situation.