The War in the Ukraine
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update from southfront.
apparently the attack by Ukrainians at north of izyum was repelled.
the word significant you need to put in context. we are now now over 2.5 months into it. we have few videos of drone excluding any Moskova video. drones are for videos and most of them not even colored.. it will be like Pilot making video of every sortie.
second i have vey low opinion about these turbo prop drones that need runway and carry such light load /slow speed.
what if Russian deliberately not wanted to shot down these drones to see where these drones are going back and than send cruise missiles at them and do much much higher damage to human lives that support airforce.
Oniks is high energy weopon so it can go through fortification.
This already goes towards conspiracy theories.
Simply even slow drones can execute all the same methods to evade detection and intercept "big" aircraft can. And do it with success.
long-neglected loitering aircraft(not only unmanned, by the way!) just made a loud return, for those who thought that 3rd world conflicts weren't indicative enough.
its logical thinking not conspiracy theory to find out hideouts of drones and destroy much higher skilled human capital.
hand held and strategic drones are use full.
the problem with these drones i they very lightly loaded, they are very slow (time consuming loading, travel time to target) and they need runways. it hardly give you flexbility to deal with all the targets in one pass. it does not carry rockets, machines guns and bunker busting strike weopons. it will take some time for people to realize that speed of action very important.
It's 70 days into the war. Russia hasn't taken the Donbas, Kiev or even finished rooting out the last holdouts in Mauripol (tomorrow? maybe?)
Russia's down at least 32 BTG: Russia went into the conflict with 130 BTG and now only has 98 BTG in Ukraine. We know Russia has reinforced with Chechens, troops from Ossetia and the far east. That makes the probability Russia has more than lost more than 32 BTG highly likely, imo.
Russia is starting to strike infrastructure it steered away from for a long time. The Russians are conducting over 200 air sorties per day in Ukraine. Missile strikes are a daily occurrence all over Ukraine.
Ukraine has been conducting raids into Russia, not occasionally, but fairly frequently. Several nights in a row Belgorod had its air defenses firing. Other locales within 100 km of the border have been hit. The Ukrainian air force has been seen more recently as well.
The Raputitsa is drying out. General Mud is retiring from the field. Much hangs in the balance.
I'm in "Let's wait and see" mode, but I am very certain I am not going to convince anyone here of much of anything.
Russia's down at least 32 BTG: Russia went into the conflict with 130 BTG and now only has 98 BTG in Ukraine. We know Russia has reinforced with Chechens, troops from Ossetia and the far east. That makes the probability Russia has more than lost more than 32 BTG highly likely, imo.
Russia is starting to strike infrastructure it steered away from for a long time. The Russians are conducting over 200 air sorties per day in Ukraine. Missile strikes are a daily occurrence all over Ukraine.
Ukraine has been conducting raids into Russia, not occasionally, but fairly frequently. Several nights in a row Belgorod had its air defenses firing. Other locales within 100 km of the border have been hit. The Ukrainian air force has been seen more recently as well.
The Raputitsa is drying out. General Mud is retiring from the field. Much hangs in the balance.
I'm in "Let's wait and see" mode, but I am very certain I am not going to convince anyone here of much of anything.
There are many thousands "speed of action" craft in the world. There are no less than a thousand in action over Ukraine right now.
Yet the ones that are lacking are precisely those that can see from high up for tens of hours. And those that can wait for their chance for the same tens of hours.
Russia, for example, does probably lack fixed-wing aircraft, as VKS have really proven themselves to be just too small(at least their flying part). But it lacks MALE and HALE drones much, MUCH more, as there are literally just a few dozens of them.
You're asking too much from a <700kg plane.
Other drones can, there is no written rule that prohibits drones from having more payload.
any small drone can loiter over the area that will not draw attention.
there more fixed wing aircraft than needed. what can MALE/ HALE drone do that so many other high speed deep penetrating weopons cannot do?.
its war of destroying fortifications and creating meat grinders. so there will be back and forth to force a mistake.
the problem is that maintaining, operating, loading (fuel/weopons) this 700KG plane can draw attention to activity.
If you follow the Russian reports, they allegedly claimed having shot down and destroyed many dozens, if not a hundred or two hundred of drones. They are very specific in the numbers that were shot down or destroyed in the ground, as well as the type of drone, and there are photographs of Russia air defense units with numerous kill markings on them. That the Russians are specific about the numbers suggest to me there is a basis of truth to them, along with Zelensky constantly begging for more drones although I still think there is a bit of exaggeration. Also, there are more drone kills reported in the last few weeks or even days, suggest that the Russian air defenses have gotten past their learning curve in dealing with them, and now frequently killing them. Not only are drones getting shot down, but also Tochka-U and Smerch rockets.
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There are also many retreats by Ukrainian forces and abandoning their weapons. There are also reports that these weapons are not reliable, not easy to use, don't even work.