The War in the Ukraine

ficker22

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Yeah, the quick nature of the destruction just stunned me! It goes from being a T-90 to slag in a split second. Usually the tank gets hit and the crew at least might have a chance to survive and get out, but these guys had no chance whatsoever.
Depends on what is hit in the ammo, the charge might burn away and the rising temp result in total detonation, if the atgm hit a HE warhead it probably detonated directly.
Even when the ammo burns instead of detonating immedeatly, survival chance is quite limited, should one get out of the tank, the tank still detonates and becomes a giant bomb.
 
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Tam

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Ghouls got to have pretty good range if they are hitting all the way to the Ukrainian side of Kherson or there are now Russian DRGs infiltrating the area, similar to an FPV drone raid on an oil facility in the Kharkhiv area by Russian infiltrators. Here two AFU supply trucks were hit.

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Russian MoD releases video showing Ukrainian force concentration behing hit by Russian artillery.

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It's been revealed that Ukraine tried to seize the ZNPP three times but all failed. The last involved hundreds of fighters including mercenaries. We can presume these attempts were met by heavy Russian artillery and drones.

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The 88th Brigade hits Ukrainian positions with artillery on the flanks of Artemovsk.

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Russian forces sweeped and cleared through Novoprokovpivka of AFU forces.

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Ukraine continues assault on Rabotino and Verbove for the upteenth time with small dispersed groups of infantry forces but discovered by Russian drones and covered by Russian artillery.

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This video doesn't need a Telegram login to view unlike in previous post. Ukrainian S-300 system gets smashed by Tornado-S in Mykolaiv region.

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Photo and analysis of the Tornado-S vs. S-300 strike showing the area affected by the fragmentation cloud. At least six launchers, three of them burning, the illumination radar and it's control vehicle were within the fragmentation range.

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Also in Mykolaiv region, an ST-68U radar of the AFU, also known as the P-18 search radar, gets destroyed. I would presume using Tornado-S. The strike is about 40km behind the front line.

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Ukrainian infantry assault group moving through the forest line at night gets discovered and hit by Russian artillery.

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Snipers play a big part among Russian infantry. Here is a sniper of the White Wolves Battalion in Kremennaya.

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The attack on a Ukrainian command and observation post in Kupyansk by a FAB bomb has allegedly killed more than 60 combatants. Also Russians have reported now seeing Bradleys in the area, an indication the area has grown in priority for the Ukrainians.

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Russian air strikes on Ukrainian positions in Marinka.

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M113 on Russian drone sights in Novoprokovpivka.

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Weapons captured by the 37th Guards Brigade off the 38th Brigade of the AFU, which were previously hit by Tornado-S. The fighting was in Novodonetsk.

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"Doc" of Obtf Kaskad reviews Western grenades and grenade launchers from captured equipment.

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blackjack21

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probably a T-90, T-90A or T-90MS since I dont think they sent the breakthroughs yet since they were being tested with EW equipment along with the T-14s, although this like the 1st footage in a very long time we saw a T-90 either captured or destroyed so congrats to Ukraine ;)

Ukraine still has alot of catching up to do.
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MOSCOW, October 1 - RIA Novosti. The Ukrainian army has lost up to a third of the Leopard tanks supplied by the West, Colonel of the Austrian Armed Forces Markus Reisner told dpa, his words are quoted by the publication Die Welt.
As the colonel noted, the effectiveness of the Leopard 2 tanks turned out to be "less significant" than expected. "Of the approximately 90 tanks of this type delivered, at least a third were destroyed or damaged," Die Welt quoted Reisner as saying.
 

Surpluswarrior

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If you are interested in what Westerners are being told about equipment in Ukraine, watch the following video:


I learned several valuable things:

-The "Soviet" tanks Russia deploys in Ukraine lack thermal sights, except for the T-80U commanders' model.

(b/c the Soviet Union had difficulty producing thermals.)

-Similarly, Soviet Union did not field many tanks with laser rangefinders. Correspondingly, there are few models of Russian tanks with laser rangefinding.

-Abrams gun stabilization and targeting is in a class above any deployed Russian tank, as it can reliably hit targets at 2.5 km.

Boy, those T-90s are not going to know what hit them!

Also, NATO standardization means that Challenger, Leopard, and Abrams can all share the same main gun ammunition.

(Mods, I apologize if I am inadvertently posting a banned source. It is for educational purposes.)

Really, the whole thing reads as if the presenter picked up a 30-year-old book about Soviet armour, and transposed it to the Russian armoured force of today. There's no mention of the Thales thermals that have been applied to Russian armour for years now, how the main-force T72B3/M and T-80BVM use thermals, how the T-90M uses thermals, how many of the older tanks pushed into service have been outfitted with thermals.

Soviet tanks employed laser rangefinding decades ago, even outfitting T-62M with them.

And of course he can't event describe NATO equipment properly, since Challenger 2 uses different ammunition for its rifled gun.

It's noteworthy that viewers largely believe what they're being fed. One of the reasons why the West keeps pushing arms into Ukraine, as the public was convinced Russia was about to crack any day now.
 
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Tam

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NAP delivers another batch of Su-34 bombers to the Russian MoD.

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In Klescheevka, a Bradley is hit and burns.

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Helicopter fired LMUR missile hits some Ukrainian object. This one appears to be using an optical television seeker instead of thermal which can reduce the cost of the missile and increase production.

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AFU Kirpi and Kozak APCs hit mines.

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Three M777s knocked out by the VDV using Lancets.

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Ghoul FPV drone hits a Ukrainian dugout in the Vuhledar front.

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240mm Tyulpan mortars blasting away at Ukrainian positions at Novomikhailovka at the Vuhledar sector. Explosions so strong they detonate local minefields.

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Ukrainian soldier and Tiktoker shows dead AFU vehicles in the road he travels.

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Ukrainian shelter gets hit by Russian artillery.

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AFU vehicle cemetery near Klescheevka.

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AFU vehicle gets taken out by Ka-52 with ATGM, despite the fuzzy image.

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Ukrainian DRG taken out by ATGM and observed using a thermal sight.

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blackjack21

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-Abrams gun stabilization and targeting is in a class above any deployed Russian tank, as it can reliably hit targets at 2.5 km.

Boy, those T-90s are not going to know what hit them!
its been awhile but only 1 T-90 (unconfirmed model) was actually recorded for this summer counter offensive being destroyed compared to a NATO colonel stating 1/3rd or 30 leopard 2s got destroyed. Rheinmetall designed the cannons for the leopard 2s and Abrams and its already a bad sign when a high-ranking pentagon official is literally telling the Russians to play fair when engaging their tanks and thats not a joke. LAHATs have a farther range than refleks on paper, but it seems they must have tested new ATGMs where they show visually show the optics and a target getting hit from 6.8kms away while the only LAHAT youtube video with a leopard 2 recorded hitting a tank 3.9kms away.

Really, the whole thing reads as if the presenter picked up a 30-year-old book about Soviet armour, and transposed it to the Russian armoured force of today. There's no mention of the Thales thermals that have been applied to Russian armour for years now, how the main-force T72B3/M and T-80BVM use thermals, how the T-90M uses thermals, how many of the older tanks pushed into service have been outfitted with thermals.
So far atleast the optics on the T-90 depending on source matches most current western optics in the 7-10km ballpark. The only existing next generation thermals are on the Sepv4s For reference the 3rd Gen FLIR promised for the SepV4 uses long wave and midwave infrared detection
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however Russias camera speaks of SWIR and near infrared which offers higher resolution capabilities than what was proposed as the 3rd gen FLIR of the abrams
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. so I think Russia might have atleast surpassed the U.S. in infrared technology if I was reading that article right, because in 2020 sepv4s received them with 20.8km range capabilities while the Russians got the same range but with a more better resolution so i am hoping those prototype cameras get added since the T-14 armata spoke of new electronics.


Also the russians have made new amplifiers to operate with GaN and less power consumption that work on the ka-band which is the same exact frequency the T-14 radars operate in
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T-95 was tested with a radar before to identify targets 10kms a long time back but if we are assuming the new radar range is 20kms than their new ATGM sprinter with
1. its drone.
2.possibly 20km radar
3. High resolution infrared detection with laser illumination 20km range.

russia defense net says the sprinter is 20kms because of being given a propellant charge and that the 12kms is western claims because of a similar ammunition without a charge got tested at 12kms.
 

siegecrossbow

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If you are interested in what Westerners are being told about equipment in Ukraine, watch the following video:


I learned several valuable things:

-The "Soviet" tanks Russia deploys in Ukraine lack thermal sights, except for the T-80U commanders' model.

(b/c the Soviet Union had difficulty producing thermals.)

-Similarly, Soviet Union did not field many tanks with laser rangefinders. Correspondingly, there are few models of Russian tanks with laser rangefinding.

-Abrams gun stabilization and targeting is in a class above any deployed Russian tank, as it can reliably hit targets at 2.5 km.

Boy, those T-90s are not going to know what hit them!

Also, NATO standardization means that Challenger, Leopard, and Abrams can all share the same main gun ammunition.

(Mods, I apologize if I am inadvertently posting a banned source. It is for educational purposes.)

Really, the whole thing reads as if the presenter picked up a 30-year-old book about Soviet armour, and transposed it to the Russian armoured force of today. There's no mention of the Thales thermals that have been applied to Russian armour for years now, how the main-force T72B3/M and T-80BVM use thermals, how the T-90M uses thermals, how many of the older tanks pushed into service have been outfitted with thermals.

Soviet tanks employed laser rangefinding decades ago, even outfitting T-62M with them.

And of course he can't event describe NATO equipment properly, since Challenger 2 uses different ammunition for its rifled gun.

It's noteworthy that viewers largely believe what they're being fed. One of the reasons why the West keeps pushing arms into Ukraine, as the public was convinced Russia was about to crack any day now.

It won’t even be a tank vs tank battle. Abrams won’t even see a T-72 or T-90 when a DJI drops a bomb on top of it.
 

Tam

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Dead vehicles of the AFU from a Ukrainian soldier and Tiktoker's perspective.

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Ka-52 on the hunt. This time the prey is a shelter used by AFU soldiers.

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Destroyed AFU vehicle from the Ukrainian perspective.

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AFU infantry and tank forces fall under the cover of Russian artillery near Artemovsk.

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Polish Krab gets destroyed.

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Knocked out M113 and a pile of metal that used to be a Humvee in the Zaporozhye front from the Ukrainian POV.

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Air strikes again at AFU deployment points in the Beryslav region.

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Ukrainian armored vehicle gets hit by FPV drone of the Chechens in the Rabotino Verbove front.

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Geran swarm attack. This one on the city of Vilkovo, south of Odessa. Targeting port infrastructure, ferries and warehouses no doubt.

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Geran arrivals at the village of Dachne near Odessa.

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Self inflicted. Ukrainian SAM malfunctions and hits the ground.

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More Geran arrivals in Odessa.

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Thermobaric rocket attack? Ukrainian stronghold in forest line near Nikolskoye under fierce attack.

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