The War in the Ukraine

Tam

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Ka-52 takes out a BTR-4.

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This time, a Ka-52 strikes a Ukrainian hideout with it's Vikhr missile.

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Destroyed 2S22 Bogdan with 155mm. This is a self developed self manufactured SPG by Ukraine.

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Compilation of FPV drone strikes against Ukrainian vehicles by the Sudoplatov Battalion in Zaporozhye.

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Russian artillery takes out a Ukrainian MT-12 Rapira in a counter battery duel.

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Russian MT-12 Rapira fires at Ukrainian positions in Ugledar. If you don't know what this is, the Rapira is an old style anti-tank gun. It's remarkable that both sides still find such guns useful.

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Ukrainian tank takes a hit from an ATGM.

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Russian hackers hacking on AFU soldiers smartphones for valuable info and their location to be used for strikes. Article from CNN.

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Kozak-2 destroyed in Urozhayne.

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203mm Malka SPG takes out an AFU D-20 howitzer.

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AFU ammunition depot wiped out by two Iskander missiles in the Donetsk region at Krasnoarmeyersk.

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FABs dropped on AFU positions in Urozhayne.

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Russian S-60 gun, on the back of an Ural.

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The 200th Brigade withstood two days of attacks from Ukrainian forces in the northern Artemovsk sector, with kills of eight vehicles, eight soldiers captured and caused over 80 casualties.

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Destroyed T-64BV with a KMT-7 mine trawl in Zaporozhye.

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Ukrainian deployment point hit by artillery of the 127th Division in Zaporozhye.

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Russian MoD reporting successful Iskander strike at AFU headquarters and communication center for Tactical Group Donetsk. Report starts at 5:40.


Ukrainian tanks and other vehicles destroyed after a Russian strike.


Captured Ukrainian vehicle of Western origin being towed away by a Russian tank.

 

supersnoop

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He used to be a lot worse. As much as it pains me to admit it, his level of quality is high enough today that I wouldn't hesitate to give his articles a read, I would just take them with a grain of salt.

This was pure and simple clickbait.

His main source is Oryx, which (regardless of how you view their authenticity) by their own admission do not have up to date numbers.

This was a pure Dan Rather situation (maybe you are old enough to remember) where you put out incomplete information (and later found to be undeniably false) as total facts.

That's garbage, not journalism.

Plus this guy was already raising alarm bells just a couple months ago
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HighGround

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That is an incredibly sharp IR image that is almost certain to be from a NATO spy satellite since its impossible that an aircraft which can carry that quality of imaging equipment would be able to fly so far into Russian airspace and so high over a military airbase without getting splashed.

All I can say is NATO is playing stupid games and being ever more careless and provocative in flaunting it’s direct involvement in attacks against the Russians, deep into Russian territory no less.

Such self presented evidence pretty much gives Russia enough justification to label NATO ISR assets as direct participants in armed hostilities against Russian forces and thus are legitimate targets. NATO would certainly do so if missiles and drones started blowing up stuff in NATO military bases on NATO soil with the Russians showing the moment of impact images.

It is worth noting that the Russians and Putin in particular are patient. Just because they have not escalated this far, when the odds are stacked against them, does not mean they will not come back and settle old scores later, when the odds are more in the favour. It is also worth noting that you cannot invoke Article 5 if you yourself initiated armed hostilities first.

I would not be surprised if Russia starts directly assisting potential adversaries in their attacks against NATO from now on.
 

tankphobia

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I would not be surprised if Russia starts directly assisting potential adversaries in their attacks against NATO from now on.
The IR imagery from the short clip shown appears to be from a thermo camera equipped UAV rather than any satellite as initially proposed. This could be western provided or just a DJI UAV, is Russia going to back ETIM now?
 

tankphobia

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Well for one thing, I believe that the provided images are in fact commercial satellite footage, but that's not why I made my comment.

The reason why @plawolf comment elicited such a response from me, is because I find it highly unlikely that this operation is possible without direct NATO involvement. I find it highly likely that target identification, route planning, and timetables have all been provided by NATO.

Is it possible that Ukraine did this all on its own? Certainly. It's possible.

But this is a country that's in an all out war, and whatever spy networks they have in Russia, it's much easier to know which targets are available, when and where, by using satellite footage. All of which NATO can readily provide.

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Putting aside what actually happened, what matters is what Russian leadership believe and I'm willing to bet a few body parts that the Russian leadership is assuming that this operation has been carried out with massive NATO help. I expect Russia to remember these incidents, and respond in kind when the opportunity arises.

Consider how many adversaries NATO has. Venezuela, Iran, Cuba, China, any of the dozen countries in Africa. In an event of any future NATO operation (whether it is a military one or otherwise), Russian intelligence or direct assistance, can turn the tide in these NATO endeavors.

SVR might even send a letter signed, "Russia sends its regards"... but that's enough Tom Clancy fiction for now.

Bottom line, NATO has clearly greatly escalated this situation regardless of anyone's opinion on whether that was the right or wrong thing to do. Russia can't resort to nukes, and it may have limited ways to escalate itself, but it will most certainly remember every single moment of this war, and pay back in kind when the opportunity arises, and it will arise.
Look at deino's post right above yours, it doesn't really strike me as satellite footage. After all if UAVs were used to accurately strike critical points of aircrafts they'll have to be guided to target visually anyhow. It seems reasonable to have a loitering thermal camera equipped UAV for damage assessment.

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