Indeed. The flag already hangs over... something. I wonder if Russia will bother with fighting for Robotyne. It's quite flat now.
The War in the Ukraine
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Personally I think this is pissed off rhetoric and they don't have any capability to seriously escalate some skirmish in Moscow
Things escalate in a rather faster rate lately huh
Prigozhin dood, wat nou?
Prigozhin dood, wat nou?
Coup was 100% real and failed cause Prigozhin overestimated the support he had in the government.
Also, no way Prigozhin + friends would have gotten away with an attempted coup scot-free. That would entirely undermine Putin, the military, and Ukraine war effort especially with the unhinged rants Prigozhin made just before the coup.
In hind sight, it made sense for Putin to make a move against him after Wagner was disarmed to avoid bloodshed. Going after Prigozhin right after he backed down would for sure have caused skirmishes if not full on fighting between the MOD and Wagner when tensions peaked. Even if MOD came out victorious, the high casualty count among supposed "allies" would be hugely embarrassing.
Also, no way Prigozhin + friends would have gotten away with an attempted coup scot-free. That would entirely undermine Putin, the military, and Ukraine war effort especially with the unhinged rants Prigozhin made just before the coup.
In hind sight, it made sense for Putin to make a move against him after Wagner was disarmed to avoid bloodshed. Going after Prigozhin right after he backed down would for sure have caused skirmishes if not full on fighting between the MOD and Wagner when tensions peaked. Even if MOD came out victorious, the high casualty count among supposed "allies" would be hugely embarrassing.
Russia confirmed it was an S-300 so it seems they returned the favor to Ukraine on the same day.
I dont know why the same day than destroying ukraines S-300 any other day it's like they are trying to tell us they control the pain dial.
I dont know why the same day than destroying ukraines S-300 any other day it's like they are trying to tell us they control the pain dial.
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Quite a dramatic way to get rid of loose ends, but its Putin in the end. Prigozhin being so nonchalant despite Putin openly calling his coup attempt treason kind of reminds me of this documentary on the mafia, where an FBI agent said that media hypes up organized criminals as Machiavellian masterminds when the majority were just straight up morons or had their heads so far up their asses they didn't realize they were dead men walking.
So Surovikin, easily one of Russia's most competent generals, is out of the job, Wagner's chain of command has been red weddinged. Whole thing straight out of ancient China or any pre-modern political entity where regardless of competence, disloyalty is met with swift and harsh vengeance.
Wonder how Wagner fighters are going to react to this.
So Surovikin, easily one of Russia's most competent generals, is out of the job, Wagner's chain of command has been red weddinged. Whole thing straight out of ancient China or any pre-modern political entity where regardless of competence, disloyalty is met with swift and harsh vengeance.
Wonder how Wagner fighters are going to react to this.
The ''coup'' was clearly throwing a ton of **** in the air that would definitively drop back on him and Wagner anyway. Prigozhin is dead or faking dead, whatever....I don't think we will see him again.
A bit more flashy than falling from the ninth floor.
Cross posting this news from the Miscellaneous News thread:
Also according to this article:
“ Russian state news agency RIA Novosti, citing an anonymous source, reported that Surovikin has been replaced as commander of the Russian Aerospace Forces by Col. Gen. Viktor Afzalov, who heads the main staff of the air force.”
Non-linked version:
Also according to this article:
“ Russian state news agency RIA Novosti, citing an anonymous source, reported that Surovikin has been replaced as commander of the Russian Aerospace Forces by Col. Gen. Viktor Afzalov, who heads the main staff of the air force.”
Personally I find this very unfortunate.
Wagner was Russia's most combat-effective unit, and in Prigozhin Russia had found a very potent military leader. Now Putin destroys both to preserve his power. Imagine if Stalin had murdered Zhukov in the middle of WWII.
How can Russia win when Putin keeps on purging its best generals? We never see lunacy like this on the Ukrainian side.
Wagner was Russia's most combat-effective unit, and in Prigozhin Russia had found a very potent military leader. Now Putin destroys both to preserve his power. Imagine if Stalin had murdered Zhukov in the middle of WWII.
How can Russia win when Putin keeps on purging its best generals? We never see lunacy like this on the Ukrainian side.