The War in the Ukraine

HighGround

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...For all we know, those villages were, or will be, recaptured in the next few days.


For all we know is based on what? Sorry, but these are just as baseless claims like claiming the offensive is only progressing forward.
 

HighGround

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For all we know is based on what? Sorry, but these are just as baseless claims like claiming the offensive is only progressing forward.
My statement says that the villages may, or may not be captured, re-captured, or otherwise.

How is that a baseless claim?

On the contrary, it is a claim that accounts for uncertainty.
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that Ukraine captured Neskuchno, and Blahodatne (not pictured in the article, though I have seen it on Twitter with claimed geolocation) only "verify" that Ukraine was in those villages at one point. It does not confirm that they are still holding on to those positions since Russia itself reported an effort to retake those positions. Both Russians and Ukrainians corroborated each other in regards to these events.

So what baseless claim have I made? At what point is a claim not "baseless"?
 

HighGround

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No, you clearly said "those villages were, or will be, recaptured in the next few days."

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There is nothing to deny as if they "may, or may not be captured, re-captured, or otherwise".
Really, at least admit what you wrote just a few posts above.
How are the two posts inconsistent with each other?

For all we know, those villages were, or will be, recaptured in the next few days. is clearly a statement that indicates that we do not know whether those villages remain in Ukrainian control, or will remain in Ukrainian control.

Or are you telling me that you know the outcome of Russia's current efforts to recapture those positions? Or do you have concrete evidence that Ukraine has maintained control of those villages in the last 24 hours?
 

dingyibvs

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No, you clearly said "those villages were, or will be, recaptured in the next few days."

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There is nothing to deny as if they "may, or may not be captured, re-captured, or otherwise".
Really, at least admit what you wrote just a few posts above.
"For all we know" is just another way of saying "it could very well be", it implies uncertainty. Like if I say "for all we know the rapture has already happened and we're already left behind", it means that it's possible, but not certain that the rapture has happened.
 

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No, you clearly said "those villages were, or will be, recaptured in the next few days."

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There is nothing to deny as if they "may, or may not be captured, re-captured, or otherwise".
Really, at least admit what you wrote just a few posts above.
You forgot the first part: for all we know. That is extremely critical since that is an informal way of @HighGround saying that we have little to no knowledge on the situation at hand and that anything could have happened including the recapture of Ukrainian villages.
 

Deino

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You forgot the first part: for all we know. That is extremely critical since that is an informal way of @HighGround saying that we have little to no knowledge on the situation at hand and that anything could have happened including the recapture of Ukrainian villages.
"For all we know" is just another way of saying "it could very well be", it implies uncertainty. Like if I say "for all we know the rapture has already happened and we're already left behind", it means that it's possible, but not certain that the rapture has happened.


Then I'm sorry and apologise for my fault! As per my understanding - and indeed I learned something new that way - this phrase meant "based on all we know those villages were already, or will be recaptured in the next few days."

Sorry! :confused:
 

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A Russian Lancet hit a Ukrainian howitzer in the Zaporizhzhia direction
in the village of Vasyukovka, Ukrainian mortar team was destroyed by artillery ,
Ukrainian monitoring channels report six Russian Air Force TU-95MS strategic bombers taking off

The platoon commander of one of the 110th mechanized brigade units got in touch with the Russians. He wanted to save his personnel, since they had a lot of wounded, and their command refused to evacuate. After negotiations, the full unit of the AFU drove on IFVs to the Russian troops. Help was provided to the wounded. — Source RtrDonetsk

Ukrainian POV of a Lancet coming at their positions Starlink is visible at start of video

Sudoplatov's battalion destroys ukrainian humvees and forces together with 429th brigade.Lobkovo Zaporozhye
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Reports that RuAF 127th division managed to regain control over Makarovka.
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According to this tweet ukr army conducted Forced mobilisation in uman well we don't know if this is true this guy could be a criminal or an enemy maybe A Russian spy etc
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The video shows the destruction of NATO and Ukrainian armored vehicles in the battle near Soledar that tried to attack the paratrooper positions.
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Battle for the Vremevsky ledge: Russian army counterattacks from the heights with the support of Alligators and Nighthunters
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