The War in the Ukraine

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Atomicfrog said:
Could count as a recon mission.... It look like the border is clearly not guarded hard enough.

Don't know if they have seen them coming but a couple of entrenched t55 or even Bmp1 at each border entry points could be the minimum deterence in a war situation ?
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Way too much for it to be that, plus they went too far. Maybe they hoped that it would cause a local uprising? I do notice there was a brief attempt at a campaign on twitter yesterday about how there was an uprising in Belgorod.

The Ukrainians probably told these guys before they went in they would be supported, then let them all die.

They drove so far into Russia they had nowhere to go and then just got blown up by airstrikes. Reminds me of that time ISIS tried invading Jordan, they managed to vandalise a local police station before they all got slaughtered.

Deino said:
Well ... other sources claim and show recent images including several ones stating they progressed even further!
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I'll be interested to see if that video can be geolocated. But even if they made it all the way to Moscow, what do you think they can do?
 
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supersnoop said:
Are they really "capturing" villages or just marauding around?
I imagine they don't have enough people to actually hold any ground if they all fit into a few APCs
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Just poking the bear a little more...
Right_People said:
Seems like they had a BTR-82A in the checkpoint.
It seems that the response was swift in terms of the air force and mobilising soldiers by helicopter.
There have already been several changes and Shoigu has announced that he will review border guard discipline and procedures.
Local militia groups complain that the police apparently do not allow them to carry weapons, a 50-year-old man must have belonged to the militia, the Ukrainians discovered him and killed him in his home.
In my view keeping troops here more than necessary would be a mistake, they should improve the surveillance that has failed and arm the local militia a bit more.
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Well they need their surveillance sorted out.. if they had more troops and armored vehicules, they could have done way more damage. It's a bit lame that they had managed to enter Russia like that. It's not a bunch of foot soldiers in a forest, it's a bunch of armored vehicules going in from road at a border checkpoints... The road was not mined at least ???
 
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Atomicfrog said:
Just poking the bear a little more...

Well they need their surveillance sorted out.. if they had more troops and armored vehicules, they could have done way more damage. It's a bit lame that they had managed to enter Russia like that. It's not a bunch of foot soldiers in a forest, it's a bunch of armored vehicules going in from road at a border checkpoints... The road was not mined at least ???
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Roads are still used by civilians actually.
This kind of thing only comes out once there are failures, I imagine this wouldn't be the only attempt even this month....
There are precision attacks in the area every week, and the more material you concentrate, the easier it is to be located and destroyed before crossing the border.
In addition, it seems that just a few days American satellites monitored the area ...
They should reinforce the early reaction times by counting on local help in my opinion.
 
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More losses, filmed at the checkpoint, so its clear all the insurgents are back to Ukraine:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661050129581842432

There is another video from the checkpoint, it shows an additional Kozak destroyed + burned bodies (so I will not post), so far the parade has cost the AFU:

2x MaxxPro
3x Humvee
2x Kozak
1x pickup

??? KIA
 
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Right_People said:
More losses, filmed at the checkpoint, so its clear all the insurgents are back to Ukraine:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661050129581842432

There is another video from the checkpoint, it shows an additional Kozak destroyed + burned bodies (so I will not post), so far the parade has cost the AFU:

2x MaxxPro
3x Humvee
2x Kozak
1x pickup

??? KIA
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Someone should be able to geolocate that video.

At the end it looks like someone ditched their uniform.
 
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This is hardly surprising. I remember the same thing happening during the Second Chechen War when the Chechens went into Dagestan and tried to annex it into their "Republic". Back then the Russian MVD troops and local militia had to fight for weeks until the central government decided to step in and sent the actual army. If anything at least this time the central government responded way more quickly. It is precisely to prevent this sort of proxy war activity on a grander scale by the US that Russia started the SMO.
 
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Right_People said:
More losses, filmed at the checkpoint, so its clear all the insurgents are back to Ukraine:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1661050129581842432

There is another video from the checkpoint, it shows an additional Kozak destroyed + burned bodies (so I will not post), so far the parade has cost the AFU:

2x MaxxPro
3x Humvee
2x Kozak
1x pickup

??? KIA
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Senseless attack, senseless loss of equipment and human life. On the destroyed equipment it says "For Bakhmut", i.e. revenge for Bakhmut.

Now that the Belgorod shenanigans are over, what exactly did that achieve?!

1. Zelensky sends Russian neo-Nazis on suicide mission into Russia.
2. They enter, record a few short videos, upload them to Telegram channel.
3. Bots and troll farms are activated to spread footage and memes on Twitter.
4. Just like that everyone forgot about Bakhmut.

Zelensky still refuses to directly answer about the situation in Bakhmut and there are no actual journalists in Ukraine or Western media to confront him to give yes or no answer whether Ukraine is still controlling parts of Bakhmut. I've never seen a regime so obsessed with media optics. Western politics is no longer about results, its obsessed with optics inatead. This is why Zelensky acts this way. For western politicians controlling the narrative is more important then reality.
 
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