The War in the Ukraine

Tam

Brigadier
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The message on this recovered wing from a spent Lancet says this.

"We will come after everyone."

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Piece of shot down AGM-88. Says expiration date 04/95.

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Concealed Ukrainian artillery piece gets hit by a Krasnopol guided from an Orlan-10.

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A bit of irony here as a Russian FPV drone hits a Ukrainian truck allegedly filled with drones.

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CrazyHorse

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Well ... is there indeed an increase or is this "only" based on the single and surely not independent "source" mentioned previously?
Plus, isn’t depleted uranium quite weakly radioactive? All of the U-235 has been removed, and uranium in its natural state (with some u-235 mixed in) is still only really radioactive through the alpha and beta rays that it gives off, which can both be blocked by skin, and don’t travel far in air. Uranium isn’t a big gamma ray emitter.
 

Atomicfrog

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Plus, isn’t depleted uranium quite weakly radioactive? All of the U-235 has been removed, and uranium in its natural state (with some u-235 mixed in) is still only really radioactive through the alpha and beta rays that it gives off, which can both be blocked by skin, and don’t travel far in air. Uranium isn’t a big gamma ray emitter.
If that increase in radiation is true, I would not be surprised that some nuclear waste was stored there mixed with other stuff... management of these didn't improved a lot since Soviet times. Could even be just old dust blown up in the air from Chernobyl incident.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
No, it isn't. In 1995 - after the Cold War - I was a West German pilot in Russia for a fortnight and flew L-39s and AN-24s. In the evenings I sat together with the Russian pilots who acted as safety pilots on my flights and we agreed: we are not enemies, we are friends. And we don't need war any more.

I wish for those times to come back.
Those times can come back after Russia annexes all of Ukraine. Then you can call on NATO to back off, admit defeat and call those Russians back out to drink and be merry and talk about Russia's new territory. If this is an unacceptable peace to you, then you are not really anti-war and you can see why your dream of Russia falling back to pre-2014 borders is an unacceptable peace to Russians. We all want to end a war and bring peace on our victory terms; that doesn't make anybody a saint. But if you would rather sacrifice your own territory and national interests than go to war in order to preserve lives, then you can preach about being anti-war and I would absolutely support your mentality... in the West, not in my country.
 
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Abominable

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Well ... is there indeed an increase or is this "only" based on the single and surely not independent "source" mentioned previously?
He posted data directly from a local radiation monitoring site, I don't understand what you are expecting him to do. Do you think a radiation detector in Congo can pick up radiation in the Ukraine? No, it needs to be on site.

DU is heavy and a conventional explosion would result in localised contamination.

I don't see why this comes as a surprise anyway. NATO sends radioactive ammunition to the Ukraine, Russia blows up Ukrainian ammo dumps. Those with radioactive munitions will result in localised contamination. Are NAFO deluded enough to think radioactive materiel are immune to being blown up?
Plus, isn’t depleted uranium quite weakly radioactive? All of the U-235 has been removed, and uranium in its natural state (with some u-235 mixed in) is still only really radioactive through the alpha and beta rays that it gives off, which can both be blocked by skin, and don’t travel far in air. Uranium isn’t a big gamma ray emitter.
The problem with DU is when its absorbed by the body. The body isn't good at excreting it, so it remains there for years. Once inside your body those alpha particles can do a lot of damage. As well as it being radioactive, it's highly toxic and teratogenic. Think of lead poisoning on steroids.

If the radioactive material gets into water supplies, the ground where food is grown (for animals or humans) it'll accumulate.
 
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