The War in the Ukraine

Tam

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Ukrainian APCs fell under missile attack. You can see direct hits and the APC on fire, with troops able to abandon it and run for safety.


This is another of the previously unreleased videos released only now showing a Lancet taking out a howitzer under heavy protective netting. The netting didn't work.


Ukrainian train carrying troops and ammo hit by Russian missile strike. Supposedly Ukraine outlawed videos showing the effects of Russian missile strikes but some apparently got through.


BMP-2 get blown up by a Lancet strike to the flank. Dead tank besides it. I previously posted the Telegram version but this is the YouTube version.

 

Stealthflanker

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Chimpoo

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This might seem far fetched but to me this shoot down seems to be aimed towards Turkiye that expelled the Ukrianian delegation from the Parliamentary Assembly of the Black Sea Economic Cooperation yesterday. Soon afterwards the Ukrianians shot down a "stray" TB2. Coincidence?

The Ukrainian message to Turkiye might be this, "We don't care who you are, if you take a stance against our (unhinged) diatribes, we're going to hit you!"




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The nonchalant way the Ukrianian airforce explained this incident adds only to it:

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Eh, a $6 million drone is still a $6 million drone and this incident hardly puts the Ukraine military in a good light. So - if this was indeed deliberate - I couldn't see this originally coming out of the brain of a Ukrainian.

For me, the Americans ,ultimately, are the only ones strong enough (and petty and malicious enough) to push an idea like this through.
 

Tam

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Video says it's a Lancet strike but this looks more like a Krasnopol or some laser guided bomb missile strike to me. Forpost or Sirius drones are said to use laser guided KABs so I added the "or".


Lancet hits an EW station Bukovel.

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Take down of a Ukrainian transport via Krasnopol guided by Orlan-10M.

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Russian air strike must have hit something to create this explosion. I guess this was an ammo depot.

 

Right_People

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I'm not really sure if it's Kinzhal. You can compare it with this :


Also Kinzhal apparently use Radar seeker similar as US "RADAC" for Pershing. The Radome clearly not surviving Thus why i doubt that "thick" part is anything from Kinzhal.
A superior denied the claims later
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The FighterBomber channel also writes about the weird history of Ukranians saying it was shoot down, then denying it and adds something rather interesting:
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the Dagger's head is radio-transparent ceramic, which is more glass than cast iron, and it would not have survived such a collision.
But the question remains.
What is the epic, cast-iron, phallic symbol in the photo?
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Stealthflanker

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The FighterBomber channel also writes about the weird history of Ukranians saying it was shoot down, then denying it and adds something rather interesting:
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the Dagger's head is radio-transparent ceramic, which is more glass than cast iron, and it would not have survived such a collision.
But the question remains.
What is the epic, cast-iron, phallic symbol in the photo?

I know right. It's just too suspicious. Another thing is that Dagger's Rocket motor are made out of composite through filament winding process, and unlikely to survive intact like what probably Defense express tried to depict.

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But then, that wont stop people from spreading it mindlessly, which rather unfortunate.
 

sheogorath

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I'm not really sure if it's Kinzhal. You can compare it with this :

Also there is nothing to compare the size of the supposed Kinzhal remain in the original pictures, which I'm going to assume is deliberate. The closest thing is the second picture where it sits on top of plastic bag as it has tag underneath which seems to suggest it is rather small for something as massive as Kinzhal.

But we'll see
 

Right_People

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I know right. It's just too suspicious. Another thing is that Dagger's Rocket motor are made out of composite through filament winding process, and unlikely to survive intact like what probably Defense express tried to depict.

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But then, that wont stop people from spreading it mindlessly, which rather unfortunate.
But also, why Ukranian Army denied taking it down?
Weird as usual.
Only in some years we will know the truth ...
 

obj 705A

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He's baiting some more Ukrainians in the grinder... cannot thrust what he say anyway, he's trolling all the time.

Sounds like wishful thinking on your part. The guy was pissed off in that video those are his men he's lost. He knows a major Ukrainian offensive is coming more than likely at him and other parts of the east. He knows he's not going to be able to hold the Bakhmut he occupies right now which took him almost a year to get. He sees the writing on the wall for wagner in Bakhmut.
Instead of trying to speculate and come up with all kinds of theories, how about you just listen to what Prigozhin is saying.

Wagner boss announces ‘withdrawal from Bakhmut’​


He said that his forces were supposed to have completely captured Artyomovsk by May 9, but claimed that since May 1, paramilitary bureaucrats” had cut off his troops from nearly all artillery munitions.

“The offensive resources of PMC Wagner ran out at the beginning of April, but we are advancing despite the fact that the enemy forces outnumber us by five times, Prigozhin said, adding that due to the lack of ammunition, Wagner’s losses are growing exponentially every day.

“Despite all this, the council of Wagner PMC commanders has decided to hold their positions and continue the offensive on Bakhmut until May 10, 2023, in order to celebrate the sacred holiday for Russians – May 9, Victory Day – with the brilliance of Russian weapons,” the statement reads.

Prigozhin declared that on May 10, his fighters will hand over their positions in Artyomovsk to the Russian Army and withdraw the remnants of the Wagner PMC to rear camps to lick their wounds.”

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So not only was Wagner outnumbered but lately they were even outgunned by the Ukrainians, so the Russian ministery of defence treated them with complete disregrad.
 
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