The War in the Ukraine

tankphobia

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Your original point was that western air defence systems worked this time. What is the job of air defence, it is to protect military assests from enemy strikes, so when the target of the strike is up in flames you consider the air defence to have achieved it's objectives? Well you can believe in what ever you want to believe in.
And since when was air raid sirens a measure of how successful a strike is? If there were no air raid sirens in say Lviv then that just means Lviv was not targeted with any strike. The target was in the Dnipropetrovsk oblast.
There were reports that air defense was active over Kyiv, if anything was hit we would've heard about it by now. Patriots only recently went in country for what reason would they be at the front? The explosion at Ammo dump happened almost at the same time the large amount of bombers were taking off so it wasn't air launched cruise missiles to begin with. I don't think that saying Western AA was effective against strikes on cities were inaccurate.

By your logic you can move the goal post anywhere post attack to make anything a success, we already know Russia has the capability to use ballistic missiles anywhere and there's little Ukraine can do about it, but despite that not much is coming out that much in the rear is being hit this time.
 

Right_People

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Destroyed Ukrainian 5P85S launchers along with a stockpile of missiles and a 5H63S command post from the S-300PS SAM system in the Kherson region.

Apparently, these losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces have not been captured before. A Ukrainian volunteer who published the photos claims that the SAMs were destroyed by drone strikes.

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Tam

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Another AN/TPQ-36 counter battery radar destroyed by Lancet. Waiting for the full video next.


Another 2S1 Gvozdika SPG destroyed by Lancet. SPGs are very important targets for both sides, more than tanks.


Russian FPV drone used against a hidden Ukrainian bunker.


Chechens using drones to assist mortars firing at Ukrainian positions.

 

sheogorath

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Atomicfrog

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This explosion certanly caused by solid rocket fuel.

Means it either SAM missiles, large ones, or HIMARS missiles.

What other missile left ?

OR really SS-24 boosters :D
The localisation is looking more like vehicules or ammo build-up for the spring or summer counter offensive. They will certainly bring SAM systems near the front to cover it. Anyway, even if it was SS-24 boosters.. desperate measures could have modified them to bomb Moscow, who knows.

Making the Ukrainian air defence depleting their ammo stocks with some cruise missiles, even making them turning in circle until they are shotdown is better than losing an aircraft later. Better for them to strike something but right now, depleting air defences while doing so is sugar coating.
 
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gelgoog

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If was RT-23 boosters, those could have been repurposed into missiles which could hit deep into Russian territory, so they were a valid target as well. You take out the second stage of an ICBM and you basically get an IRBM.

This was in the official Russian Defense Ministry website:
"The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation launched a long-range high-precision air and sea-based missile strike against Ukrainian military-industrial complex facilities.

The goal of the attack has been reached. All the assigned targets have been neutralised.

Enterprises producing ammunition, weapons and military equipment for Ukrainian forces have been disrupted."

The target this time was not the power grid.
 

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