The Russians started another aerial bombardment campaign. Geranium-2 drones hit a Ukranian fuel dump near Dnipro.
Air alerts all over Ukraine.
Air alerts all over Ukraine.
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The War in the Ukraine
- Thread starter SampanViking
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I'm curious if they already starting localized production of those Geran drones. So far the common consensus was that these drones are still being imported from Iran.
The Russians have little reason to lie on that. Russia has plenty of drone manufacturing capacity. The Kalashnikov Group makes the ZALA Lancet and KUB-BLA drones for example. It makes little sense to import a bulky airframe when it can be manufactured cheaply in Russia. The Russians are also using GLONASS for guidance in later kamikaze drones instead of civilian grade GPS like the Iranians. What is more likely is that Russia might still be importing drone components from Iran like engines.
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The Russians have little reason to lie on that. Russia has plenty of drone manufacturing capacity. The Kalashnikov Group makes the ZALA Lancet and KUB-BLA drones for example. It makes little sense to import a bulky airframe when it can be manufactured cheaply in Russia. What is more likely is that Russia might still be importing drone components from Iran like engines.
Given the sanctions imposed lately in a number of Chinese companies, the Iranian made drones use moped engines from China, hence the other nickname for these drones, 'mopeds'. The Russians should be more than capable of producing moped engines of their own.
Unlike the Geran, while the KUB has a similar wing configuration and is gos guided to static sites, KUB appears to use an electric motor that makes it much quieter and stealthier at the expense of range.
GLONASS/GPS satellite guided circuitry are likely to be much simpler than those that have optical recognition and can be more than satisfied using whatever process the Russians have. The Russians always maintain an autokartic policy so if they can build it on their own completely, they will and they must out of policy. They should already be developing or making their own DJI counterparts.
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the kremennaya sector does not get a lot of attention since everyone is watching bakhmut, and increasingly avdeevka. but some milbloggers have pointed out that russian attack towards lyman is a serious meat grinder and some of russias best units are there. it makes sense since it is close to russia and more likely to get support with more assets.Kremennaya has become another meat grinder. In contrast to Bakhmut, more high tech weapons are involved in this area. This is another classic case of drone spotting an assault followed by invitable artillery spam. Not enough artillery? Not enough ISR? One can argue instead that both sides have too much of both and that leads to a stalemate situation, unless one side wins the counter battery war.
More Russian advances day by day.
also agree on the issue with spamming artillery bringing this war back to WWI type of fighting. since both sides have good ISR and artillery and long range fire, it is impossible to achieve surprise on the attack, and any concentration of troops and materiel in preparation for an attack will invite fire.
Given the sanctions imposed lately in a number of Chinese companies, the Iranian made drones use moped engines from China, hence the other nickname for these drones, 'mopeds'. The Russians should be more than capable of producing moped engines of their own.
Unlike the Geran, while the KUB has a similar wing configuration and is gos guided to static sites, KUB appears to use an electric motor that makes it much quieter and stealthier at the expense of range.
GLONASS/GPS satellite guided circuitry are likely to be much simpler than those that have optical recognition and can be more than satisfied using whatever process the Russians have. The Russians always maintain an autokartic policy so if they can build it on their own completely, they will and they must out of policy. They should already be developing or making their own DJI counterparts.
Shaheed-136 (Geran-2) drones don't use moped engines. The Iranian MADO MD550 engine used by the Shaheed-136 is a copy of the German Limbach L550e engine originally designed for light aircraft.
I disagree. Russian ISR has been repeatedly demonstrated as bad in this war. They totally missed the Ukrainian buildupalso agree on the issue with spamming artillery bringing this war back to WWI type of fighting. since both sides have good ISR and artillery and long range fire, it is impossible to achieve surprise on the attack, and any concentration of troops and materiel in preparation for an attack will invite fire.
in the Kharkiv area in September of last year and in a matter of two days their battle lines collapsed with Ukraine advancing 50km in the time span. Entire Russian units were lost in the general rout that ensued.
I disagree. Russian ISR has been repeatedly demonstrated as bad in this war. They totally missed the Ukrainian buildup
in the Kharkiv area in September of last year and in a matter of two days their battle lines collapsed with Ukraine advancing 50km in the time span. Entire Russian units were lost in the general rout that ensued.
No they saw it. I distinctly remember a Russian blog, I think it's Rybar, that said there were hundreds of tanks and vehicles being kept underground at Kharkiv. This is more of Lavin's incompetence in handling that front. In contrast to Surovikin's handling of the Kherson front where every Ukrainian assault got spotted and fire bagged, and he did it entirely with Aerospace forces and Navy Marines.
Look at all the FABs hitting the ammo depots in Avdiivka recently. Everytime you see an ammo depot hit, a command post hit, a barracks hit, troop concentrations hit, that's the Russian ISR for you. Not saying the Ukrainians lack of it, they have them in spades too. The reason for this is the massive proliferation of drones that allow for abundant low cost local reconnaissance with very tight and small command loops. If an assault force is spotted by a drone, the artillery will be spamming there in minutes. Rinse and repeat 24/7 again and again, month after month. That's what's been going on.
I could go on to say drone assisted warfare has made the point of CAS pointless.
Shaheed-136 (Geran-2) drones don't use moped engines. The Iranian MADO MD550 engine used by the Shaheed-136 is a copy of the German Limbach L550e engine originally designed for light aircraft.
Appreciate the correction. Germany no longer makes it apparently, as it is now manufactured in China, from which the Iranians has copied.
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