The Q-5, J-7, J-8 and older PLAAF aircraft

badger16

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i always thought that J-8II was a copy of Su-15 but that opinion does not seem to be shared by many.
They are sort of related, though: both trace their origins back to famous study by TsAGI in early 1950's, which spawned three important lineages: MiG-21, Su-9 and Su-7. Something like 20 000 jets were built based around those concepts.

Regarding J-8, this was asked already, but does anyone know about early J-8 production numbers: English and Chinese wikipedias state that basic version was accepted to service in 1980, and production terminated in 1985, but no other details are given. Regarding J-8I, English wikipedia claims that 'around 100' were built, while Chinese wiki puts the number on lowly 31. As it was in production only for couple of years, smaller number sounds more credible.
 

MiG_23M

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They are sort of related, though: both trace their origins back to famous study by TsAGI in early 1950's, which spawned three important lineages: MiG-21, Su-9 and Su-7. Something like 20 000 jets were built based around those concepts.

Regarding J-8, this was asked already, but does anyone know about early J-8 production numbers: English and Chinese wikipedias state that basic version was accepted to service in 1980, and production terminated in 1985, but no other details are given. Regarding J-8I, English wikipedia claims that 'around 100' were built, while Chinese wiki puts the number on lowly 31. As it was in production only for couple of years, smaller number sounds more credible.
I thought the J-8I was just the designation for any of the original J-8's that were upgraded with an improved RWR, fire control radar, and other features along with compatibility with PL-8 or PL-5.
 

badger16

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I thought the J-8I was just the designation for any of the original J-8's that were upgraded with an improved RWR, fire control radar, and other features along with compatibility with PL-8 or PL-5.
Wouldn't that be J-8E, '90s update for earlier models?

(Supposedly) J-8 vs J-8I (aka. J-8A). Note different canopies, and different guns (30mm in original, GSh-23 in later example). Well technically example in the right is J-8E, but A had same features.

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MiG_23M

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Wouldn't that be J-8E, '90s update for earlier models?

(Supposedly) J-8 vs J-8I (aka. J-8A). Note different canopies, and different guns (30mm in original, GSh-23 in later example). Well technically example in the right is J-8E, but A had same features.

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Yes you're correct, I was just a little confused / forgot.
 

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Images from a museum exhibit showing the J-9 (first two photos) and J-13 (last photo).

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