The PLAN LCAC Type 726 Yuyi Class

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Lion

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asif iqbal said:
Well if not then why not just build follow on units of Type 072A and III, they don't have well decks as such and don't deploy LCAC, if PLAN stratgdy was to use mass ZDB05 assaults swimming in from the sea they could easily build like 50 LST why go out of their way and build a 20,000 ton sophisticated Type 071 LPD which could take four helos, a massive deck and four LCAC in the well deck, one simple reason because they want to use the well deck, the well deck is for LCAC, a LCAC is large it's fast and is used for over the horizon amphibious landings as well as a powerful air complement of four medium sized helos

As someone said if vehicles swimming out of a naval platform was the future PLAN doctrine the Type 071 is the wrong platform, they could just have built a large vessal with rear door and fitted like 200 assault vehicles in it and there you go but thats not what they want that's not what they intend to use

Type 071 LPD is a amphibious assault ship, moreover it's clearly designed for a over the horizon landing, however it's designed for but currently not equipped for that mission, this is what we are trying to understand
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Flexibilities and Ocean going are the key. 072A and III platform do not provide that kind of multi option and they are too small. Dont forget 071 are able to act as Command and Control for the fleet which other LST not able to fufil.

Plus LCAC do have the advantage transporting an MBT towards the shore. But I do not forsee PLAN sacrifacing the whole payload of 4 LCAC just to bring 4 MBT for a breaching operations. While I forsee the current doctrine of PLAN marines are to station 1 to 2 LCAC onboard every 071 LPD. Giving the breaching operation the abilities of loading non amphibious heavy unit when necessary while still retain the essential of enough combat units able to do the breaching operation independently by swimming ashore.
 
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franco-russe

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asif iqbal said:
The simple answer is yes they do require them because they have built three LPD each able to carry four LCAC and four Z8 medium sized helos



With all due respect if the Turkish invasion was so deplorable then how come 1/3 of Cyprus is under Turkish control
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Because a Turkish army of occupation (one corps of two divisions) is still in northern Cyprus, from where the Greek inhabitants have been expelled, replaced by settlers from Anatolia. And because you can get away with open aggression if you are a valued NATO ally.
 
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Jeff Head

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asif iqbal said:
Type 726 carrying a ZTZ96

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Here's a pic of a US Navy LCAC approaching the USS Bonhomme Richard LHD-6, earlier this year:


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asif iqbal

asif iqbal

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See thats the thing Type 726 has even been on anti-piracy missions back in 2010 but I am still waiting to see PLAN off load and load a fully equipped LCAC like this into the Type 071 LPD well deck we always get the empty version of photos

Type 726 is longer than its US countpart its bigger and can take a serious load, as we like to say time will tell!

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asif iqbal

asif iqbal

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Lion said:
Flexibilities and Ocean going are the key. 072A and III platform do not provide that kind of multi option and they are too small. Dont forget 071 are able to act as Command and Control for the fleet which other LST not able to fufil.

Plus LCAC do have the advantage transporting an MBT towards the shore. But I do not forsee PLAN sacrifacing the whole payload of 4 LCAC just to bring 4 MBT for a breaching operations. While I forsee the current doctrine of PLAN marines are to station 1 to 2 LCAC onboard every 071 LPD. Giving the breaching operation the abilities of loading non amphibious heavy unit when necessary while still retain the essential of enough combat units able to do the breaching operation independently by swimming ashore.
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No you are wrong again, did I not just post a picture of Type 726 carrying a ZTZ96, how much does it weight maybe 40-50 tons so PLAN is doing that for fun? No they are doing it because a tank is a tank, it's a heavy fighting vehicle and the fire power, mobility and armour a tank brings to the fight can not be replaced by any other armoured vehicle so I can fully see PLAN using Type 726 for tank transport no question about it, I think your knowledge of naval warfare is limited
 
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asif iqbal said:
Type 726 is longer than its US countpart its bigger and can take a serious load.

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The PLAN LCAC is longer and wider. But with respect to the width, the critical issue is how wide are the lanes...the space between the deck houses where the vehicles will sit and then roll off the craft?

The PLAN LCAC gives up some space on each side of the vessel, outside of each deck house, where the US LCAC deck houses come pretty close to right to the edge. I think the vehicle space on the US LCAC is just as wide as the PLAN's, if not maybe even a little wider. The PLAN's is a good deal longer.

In any case, there are two lanes marked for vehicle parking on each, but they can squeeze three rows in if they want.
 
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asif iqbal

asif iqbal

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I think you are right there, especially towards the back end of the Type 726 it does get narrower there and the cushion on the Type 726 is sticking out a lot more than the USN one

I don't think the Type 726 is as wide at the back as it is at the front just look at the fans and the two white blocks infront of the fans they do come in more

If Type 726 was designed like the USN craft it would have been totally huge loading area

If you look closely at the text it says the Chinese Type 726 is 28.8m by 7.2m wide so that's a area of 207.4m2

Each Humvee is about 2m wide and around 4.5m long that means you could have load 6 x 3 rows of Humvees on a Type 726 so thats 18 x Humvees at roughly 3 tons a peice that lift is doable even if we say they don't manage 3 rows at the very back say they manage only two rows that's still 17 x Humvee style vehicles which is actually quite a lot
 
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Lion

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asif iqbal said:
No you are wrong again, did I not just post a picture of Type 726 carrying a ZTZ96, how much does it weight maybe 40-50 tons so PLAN is doing that for fun? No they are doing it because a tank is a tank, it's a heavy fighting vehicle and the fire power, mobility and armour a tank brings to the fight can not be replaced by any other armoured vehicle so I can fully see PLAN using Type 726 for tank transport no question about it, I think your knowledge of naval warfare is limited
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Arent we on the same point since you talk about type 726 transporting a tank? Which is something the French and British LCM onboard their LPD and LHD not able to do it?

But as I say, once loaded a MBT, there isn't much payload left for other armour vehicles inside a LCAC. The tactical choice of payload isn't favourable.
 
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