The Olympic Legacy in China

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
Beijing isn't the only place where ultra-modern architecture is taking place so it has nothing to do with the Olympics. The much debated maglev extension from Shanghai to Hangzhou was approved at the end of Olympics.

Something like the CCTV HQ is the first step to adding more space to a city without occupying it on the ground.

This isn't the end. It's only the beginning.
 

kliu0

Junior Member
So the documentary was wrong then. Well, lets wait and see wat other weirdly and wacky designed buildings they can come up with. XD
 

Autumn Child

Junior Member
So the documentary was wrong then. Well, lets wait and see wat other weirdly and wacky designed buildings they can come up with. XD

basically, yes. I believe my eyes and ears more than a documentary. I don't know when that documentary is made and for what purpose. you just can't rebuke something when its actually happening in front of my eyes. I can see it, feel it and hear it everyday. How can it be false? unless the govt somehow can control my brains too. You can see it too if you come...that is if you are willing to come and open your eyes.
 

kliu0

Junior Member
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Autumn Child

Junior Member
A lasting green legacy? I hope so.

Beijingers vexed on keeping car ban
Last Updated(Beijing Time):2008-08-31 14:47

More than 400,000 Beijingers have joined an online discussion about whether to keep a pre-Games car ban.
Nearly half of them supported a permanent car restriction -- an alternating odd-even license plate system from July 20. While the others, mostly car owners, opposed.

GREEN LEGACY

Clear air, clean water and safe food, among all other good things, left local residents with not only an "exceptional" Olympics but a keen concern about the Games' "green legacy" which featured blue skies.

"I support a long-term car restriction. We have made some mistakes in the past. Now we should correct them and return blue skies to our children," wrote a netizen named He Luzhu in the forum on
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, the portal site of Beijing Youth Daily.

Air pollution and jammed traffic emerged key problems in 2001 for Beijing's bid to play host the 2008 Summer Olympics, said Sun Daguang, vice secretary of Beijing 2008 Olympic Games Bid Committee.

The host city's seven-year efforts to minimize pollution were highlighted by the relocation of a gigantic steel company, and the car ban that rested nearly 2 million, or one third of the city's vehicles, as taxis, buses and other public-service vehicles were exempt.

"The sky was high and blue during the Olympics. It's so much better than those foggy days," said a repair worker surnamed He, who took 4 to 5 hours every day riding a bicycle to visit his clients.

PAIN EASER OR PERMANENT CURE

People who opposed a long-term car ban argued it was a pain easer rather than a permanent cure.

"Only after the government makes great progress on improving public transportation should we discuss whether to keep the car ban. I love blue skies very much. But I had to drive a car because I could not stand packing in a bus for six hours a day," said an anonymous netizen.

Official statistics showed the city's roads were extending at an annual rate of 3 percent while the number of vehicles was increasing at about 15 percent per year.

"When cars run at low speeds in traffic jams, they emit way more pollutants and usually consume more oil," said Hao Jiming, a member of Chinese Academy of Engineering.

Many people who had expressed annoyance over giving up their cars for blue skies are intensely scared of returning to days of choking smog and rush-hour congestion when the restrictions end after the Paralympics.

The Beijing traffic authorities have admitted receiving many submissions from car owners, saying they were comfortable with the odd-even number system and hoping it would last.

The city would continue to improve its public transport service by expanding transport networks while keeping fares low after the Olympics, said Zhou Zhengyu, deputy director of the Beijing Municipal Committee of Communications.

"We aim to create a more convenient and comfortable environment for people traveling in the city," he said.

The car ban might be a cure for congestions but not necessarily the best one, said Yang Kaizhong, an economist from Peking University.

He argued there were a variety of methods such as charging for causing congestion and raising parking fees which proved effective in some foreign countries.

WHAT'S AHEAD

For local government, challenges remained mainly in two aspects.

One was how to effectively restrict vehicles owned by governments and state companies, and develop shuttle bus schemes as alternatives. Some people had suggested to mark those "official" vehicles with distinctive signs to differentiate them from private cars.

The other was to maintain the prolonged subway service hours and increased trains and buses, and meanwhile continue building more roads.

For citizens, the biggest challenge could be the transformation of ideas. Driving a car would probably save one some time but it would cause many other problems that would do harm to the mass. People would eventually understand their individual interests were not in conflict with public ones.

Last but not least, the car owners would have to overcome the impulse to drive, which, some say, would be a test for them who were usually labeled China's "middle class".
 

Player

Just Hatched
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Re: IOC finds no proof of China cheating

That appears to be old news. The latest I heard was that this was going to be
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Player the problem I see is that China completely mishandled the situation. There would have been lingering doubts but the story would have gone away - until the authorities started
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with the "wrong" ages on. What's even more ridiculous is that the Chinese censors have started cracking down on
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of the matter.

Why don't these people realise that these sort of actions make them look guilty? Regardless of what the truth is it would have been much better to leave things as they are - deleting or altering data and then being caught on the changes is the worst thing that can possibly happen.

Hey, I am the real thing here! He's Player0! Never assume that I'm not watching! :D But anyway, I agree with you. There are still too many PR morons in the Chinese bureaucrasy... Too big a country with too many idiots to replace in a hurry. :coffee:
 

Player

Just Hatched
Registered Member
While I am not used to squat toilets, I don't object to them in public places. Sit toilets are more comfortable for home use or by the infirm. However, I would not want to touch a toilet that thousands of others have touched with their icky buttocks (and in China, those thousands would be in the same day, not the week or month). I use the disposable paper seat covers if I have to use a sit toilet in public. This is clearly not environmentally friendly. As a compromise, tourist sites expecting tourists not familiar with squat toilets should have number of sit toilets available, as an option. Squat toilets are great exercise :) Just needs a grunt bar to keep you from falling in.

As for maintenance, I think it is also partly about operating costs-- in electricity and water.

I agree with you 100%! It's just pure stupidity to demand all-sitter toilets in all places. There are people who do care not to come into indirect direct contact with skins or any other parts of a few hundred strangers... :mad:
 

AssassinsMace

Lieutenant General
So much for puttng to an end for unique construction projects.


September 9, 2008
China's first seven star hotel to be built in Sanya, Hainan
You won't have to go to Dubai to enjoy seven-star luxury anymore as the world's second seven star hotel — and China's first — is going to be built in Sanya, Hainan. Construction of the 120m high hotel will begin later this year and will be completed by 2011 to be managed under the Fairmont Hotels & Resorts brand. Shanghai Daily tells us more:

Located in the center of Haitang Bay in Sanya City, the hotel will spread over 150 square kilometers and include a luxury yacht club, a golf course and the biggest ocean park in Asia.

It will be among another 20 five-star hotels in the area and will be a major landmark in Sanya when it is completed.

The hotel will be designed by UK-based W.S Atkins plc which designed the world's first seven-star hotel, the Burj Al Arab, in Dubai.

A 150 square kilometer hotel?! Good heavens, that's one-seventh the size of Chongming Island and one-fifth of Singapore. And that's not all. According to the Hainan Daily, Sanya's urban planning authority have announced that the city will build not one, but two seven-star hotels.

Really, we're just a slight tad disappointed they didn't decide to go one up and build the world's first eight-star hotel instead.

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