vesicles
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That's what I figured, but it looks like some sort of abbreviation...
The number of Chinese people here
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That's what I figured, but it looks like some sort of abbreviation...
wikipedia has it all
yes it's a type of laugh:
The thing is, most mainlanders stick with their chinese forums. If you think about it, there really isn't much point for them to venture out to the english online world.
PS: yay for onion heads ^^
vesicles
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Σ(OДO) Me? Funny?!
I always thought I was Propaganda. But if you see it that way I won't stop you.
Oh! Its because western emoticons need you to tilt your head by 90 degrees, XD is laugh with squinted eyes and open mouth.
Probably you need more Eastern ones （´∀｀）
Well, the reason that China stopped to expand was that expansion was no longer worthwhile.
Or because things could be worthwhile (like f.e. Vietnam which had some nice real estate too) caused too many losses due to attrition and desease.
I am relativly familiar with the history of the Ming, and they were, ironically, doomed by their own success.
In the 15th century, the Ming had created a realm in which the average living stndart was by far higher than the one of contemporary Europe (although the middle east enjoyed a certain prosperity during this times), given that they were, scientifically, culturally and militarily, by far superior to their immidiate neighbours, their pride soon changed into a deeply entrenched superiority complex which significicantly reduced their technological advances and their willingness to "evolve".
Europe on the other hand was constantly wrecked by wars, the poor living conditions enabled a certain sense of adventurism, and the average states were by far smaller (France was about as big an populous as an average Chinese province) and could therefor adopt new ideas much more easily.
I actually think that the point were Europe and China went drastically different ways (they were never the same, but the Roman and Han empires were by far more similiar than the Karolingians and the Sui for example) was the point were a feudal system evolved in Europe, while power in China stayed in the control of the beurocracy.
The Feudal system of Europe eventually lead to its fragmentation, which in turn lead to a long inter-european cut throat competition (later also known as "the great game") that forced European countries to stay innovative or be wiped from the map.
Or because things could be worthwhile (like f.e. Vietnam which had some nice real estate too) caused too many losses due to attrition and desease.
I am relativly familiar with the history of the Ming, and they were, ironically, doomed by their own success.
In the 15th century, the Ming had created a realm in which the average living stndart was by far higher than the one of contemporary Europe (although the middle east enjoyed a certain prosperity during this times), given that they were, scientifically, culturally and militarily, by far superior to their immidiate neighbours, their pride soon changed into a deeply entrenched superiority complex which significicantly reduced their technological advances and their willingness to "evolve".
Europe on the other hand was constantly wrecked by wars, the poor living conditions enabled a certain sense of adventurism, and the average states were by far smaller (France was about as big an populous as an average Chinese province) and could therefor adopt new ideas much more easily.
I actually think that the point were Europe and China went drastically different ways (they were never the same, but the Roman and Han empires were by far more similiar than the Karolingians and the Sui for example) was the point were a feudal system evolved in Europe, while power in China stayed in the control of the beurocracy.
The Feudal system of Europe eventually lead to its fragmentation, which in turn lead to a long inter-european cut throat competition (later also known as "the great game") that forced European countries to stay innovative or be wiped from the map.
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It turns out they have an official site:
FriedRiceNSpice
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Correction- "The Great Game," was actually the political and military maneuvering that occurred between Russia and Great Britain over lands controlled/formally controlled by the Ottoman Empire.
vesicles
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I agree completely. At the end of Ming, people were so sure of China's superiority, they did not want to have anything to do with anybody else. The "close-door" policy eventually doomed China.
BTW, anyone know why after Zheng he's 7 voyages, the Chinese Emperor (son of the great Zhu Di) completely destroyed all documents from Zheng's voyages. What prompted them to make such drastic move? To me, the destruction of documents almost indicate a high level of hatred toward the voyage and Zhu Di's earlier policies. Why?