The Kashmir conflict 2025.
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I'm very confused about Indian's shit comments. Do they have brains? 
1) They claim PL-15E performed very poorly in the conflict. Multiple PL-15E failed to hit targets, and remained intact. Some even claim all PL-15E were failed, not a single IAF plane got shot down.
2) When they found "intact" PL-15E wreckage, they acted like found a gold mine. Claim to reverse-engineer it, and give it to other countries for help. They believe doing this could greatly humiliate/embarrass China.
Aren't 1) and 2) self-contradictory? How can a poorly-performed AAM be a gold mine and a perfect object to reverse-engineer for every country?
1) They claim PL-15E performed very poorly in the conflict. Multiple PL-15E failed to hit targets, and remained intact. Some even claim all PL-15E were failed, not a single IAF plane got shot down.
2) When they found "intact" PL-15E wreckage, they acted like found a gold mine. Claim to reverse-engineer it, and give it to other countries for help. They believe doing this could greatly humiliate/embarrass China.
Aren't 1) and 2) self-contradictory? How can a poorly-performed AAM be a gold mine and a perfect object to reverse-engineer for every country?
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So much for Indian's comprehension ability.
Reporter: Any comment on PL-15E wreckage in India? Will this enable India to reverse-engineer it?
Chinese spokesman: It's an export product, widely shown in many exhibitions.
WION host: Beijing downplays recovery of PL-15E in India.
Comment section: Indian celebration party.
(From 1:00)
Reporter: Any comment on PL-15E wreckage in India? Will this enable India to reverse-engineer it?
Chinese spokesman: It's an export product, widely shown in many exhibitions.
WION host: Beijing downplays recovery of PL-15E in India.
Comment section: Indian celebration party.
(From 1:00)
China to India: You can directly buy a brand-new PL-15E from me for reverse-engineering. If you lack money, I can gift you one for free.
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No need to be confused. The Jai Hinds are geniuses of ancient Vedic knowledge. They are explaining the concept of Schrodinger's PL-15E: The PL-15E sucks as a weapon, yet it is also a technological marvel. Bharat Superpowar has the 3rd most powerful airforce in the world, only behind the US and Russia. They have easily defeated the PL-15E, and China have been embarrassed. Yet they also need to learn the technological secrets of this failed weapon. Jai Hind logic is too complex for outsiders like us to understand.I'm very confused about Indian's shit comments. Do they have brains?
1) They claim PL-15E performed very poorly in the conflict. Multiple PL-15E failed to hit targets, and remained intact. Some even claim all PL-15E were failed, not a single IAF plane got shot down.
2) When they found "intact" PL-15E wreckage, they acted like found a gold mine. Claim to reverse-engineer it, and give it to other countries for help.
Aren't 1) and 2) self-contradictory? How can a poorly-performed AAM be a gold mine and a perfect object to reverse-engineer for every country?
You should have seen the Jai Hinds after Galwan 2020. Years later, they still think that the PLA have been humbled at Galwan, and that they can defeat China anytime. That is their nature, and we are grateful for their endless entertainment value.
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The spokesman gave the professional answer.So much for Indian's comprehension ability.
Reporter: Any comment on PL-15E wreckage in India? Will this enable India to reverse-engineer it?
Chinese spokesman: It's an export product, widely shown in many exhibitions.
WION host: Beijing downplays recovery of PL-15E in India.
Comment section: Indian celebration party.
(From 1:00)
China to India: You can directly buy a brand-new PL-15E from me for reverse-engineering. If you lack money, I can gift you one for free.
How I would answer is:
Sure India is free to reverse-engineer from the wreckage of the PL15E. But I would ask, what had India successfully reverse-engineered in the past? In 2021 India signed a transfer of technology deal with Kalashnikov to manufacture the AK-203. Why hasn't India successfully reverse-engineered the humble assault rifle as of 2021? Brahmos or Akash? Those were license-production of obsolete Russian systems that Russia still needed to supply crucial components for India to assemble. So what exactly had India successfully reverse-engineered in the past?
more tweets aren't going to change that. Post detailed analysis of an article if it comes out or when IAF admitted aircraft were lost recently. What does posting more random tweets do?
plawolf
Lieutenant General
To date, the Indians not have displayed a single remotely ‘intact’ PL15E. All they have are debris from post detonation rounds. The most complete piece shown is one aft section, which doesn’t contain any of the truly useful elements like seeker or avionics.
The fact that the Indians have not displayed any of the PL15 pieces they recovered officially is pretty telling in terms of the true value of these pieces. If they recovered a PL15 with seeker or any significant avionics elements intact, they would be plastering close-ups of those parts all over the internet.
This whole recovering PL15s is just more of the typical Jai Hind ‘winnology’ BS tactics to claiming massive victories from the most irrelevant and inconsequential things.
The fact that the Indians have not displayed any of the PL15 pieces they recovered officially is pretty telling in terms of the true value of these pieces. If they recovered a PL15 with seeker or any significant avionics elements intact, they would be plastering close-ups of those parts all over the internet.
This whole recovering PL15s is just more of the typical Jai Hind ‘winnology’ BS tactics to claiming massive victories from the most irrelevant and inconsequential things.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
Aren't they just food for thought? Up to the viewer to decide on the quality of evidence? If you deem that they are poor quality and misleading, I would understand your choice to ban them, but you told him not to post things that happened 3 weeks ago, so I'm confused because we are not fully clear on the extent of damage on both sides, especially the Indian side which went through quite some trouble to prevent information from leaking. So isn't posting evidence of what happened back then going to slowly paint a clearer image?
The phrase 'Bollywood syndrome' seriously needs to be normalised for Indains. Just observe what even their upper class and official channels, retired officials are claiming, completely fabricated nonsensical claims like 400KM kills of AEWACs and 8 F16s shot down.
These people genuinely live in a Bollywood movie, it's like an extreme coping mechanism to willfully deny reality and construct their own safe space. Country-wide level of dissociation.
Well with Vedic magic Tantra it is like cloning an entire assault rifle from 1 spent cartridge case-a PL15 is 4m long -the spent remnant is barely 2m -perhaps they can dig out the other 2m from the wreckage of the 3Rafales,1 Su30MKI,1 Mig 29and even the Mirage 2000(?) and do their magic