The Kashmir conflict 2025.

GiantPanda

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I don't understand why the Indians continue to clown themselves like this. Just admit it with sincerity. Now no one takes you seriously.

Look, it's not important how many planes like Rafales, SU-30MKI, MiG-29 or Mirage 2000 were shot down. It is more important that you must see that we won or else all this great effort at social media banning, cellphone confiscations and fake news will be for nothing!
 

gelgoog

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The reason the Indian Air Force command center used unencrypted channels, I suspect, is that the Rafale's data link was jammed, causing the frontline Rafales to become isolated "islands."
I think the more likely reason is that because of India's disparate systems by different countries, they use open comms because that is the only way to achieve interoperability.
 

Black Wolf

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I think the more likely reason is that because of India's disparate systems by different countries, they use open comms because that is the only way to achieve interoperability.

That's a fair observation, but I believe it's less about the use of disparate systems and more about the ability and adaptability to integrate and operate them efficiently.

For instance, Pakistan operates a diverse range of platforms like Chinese fighters, Saab AWACS, Turkish and Chinese drones, EU-sourced ESM/ECM systems, various AD units, and indigenous systems like the Fateh MLRS. Despite this diversity, interoperability is achieved through frameworks like Link 16 and Link 17.

Ultimately, it's the integration capability, adaptability of the forces, and consistent training that allow such a mix of systems to be effectively employed in a cohesive operational environment.
 

Black Wolf

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Are you seriously equating the level of censorship in India with Pakistan? In India, people have been arrested simply for sharing positive content about Pakistan. If you believe otherwise, please share a credible news source showing a Pakistani civilian being arrested for posting a war-related image/content. During recent escalations, Pakistanis openly shared videos of damaged Pakistani airbases and other incidents and none faced arrest for doing so.


As for the PTI protestors, many crossed the line by making anti-Pakistan statements, with some even going as far as calling on the Indian Army to arrest Pakistani leadership after they win the war, actions that are clearly unacceptable and warrant legal consequences. Comparing their situation what India is doing is like comparing Apple to Oranges.


I would also kindly ask that you refrain from bringing partisan political narratives into this space. If you wish to discuss PTI-related topics, please go to Pakistani political forum or shitty PDF.


To our Chinese friends here, please be aware that these individuals do not represent the majority sentiment in Pakistan. In a conflict scenario, they would likely support opposing forces rather than stand by their own nation, something that would be unthinkable in China. These people have essentially become Pakistani version of 'Hanjian' - These people were literally calling Imran Khan outster part of American Regime Change conspiracy but they are now begging US senators to push for sanctions on Pakistan so that he can be released. Some PTI people based in US have literally become like Gordan Chang calling for severe sanctions on Pakistan.


@Deino , tagging you just in case this thread veers further into political territory. I appreciate your efforts in keeping this forum focused and constructive.


Thank you.

You're overcomplicating this. I didn’t bring up politics, I simply echoed what the public is already saying. People in Pakistan are very aware of the censorship they face. Just because it doesn’t fit your preferred narrative doesn’t make it partisan.

Turning this into a competition over which country censors more, or who got arrested where, is just deflection. Censorship and suppression exist in both India and Pakistan pretending otherwise doesn’t change the facts. And let’s not ignore the obvious: wasn’t X already banned before the recent clashes even started? That alone speaks volumes.

You also can’t keep brushing aside the military establishment’s role not just in censorship, but in openly interfering with the democratic process. They didn’t just influence public discourse; they literally turned the entire election. People saw it unfold in real time.

Labeling critics as “Hanjian” or disloyal Pakistanis is just a lazy attempt to silence dissent. That’s not patriotism that’s fear of accountability.

Lastly, let’s not derail the thread. This isn’t the place for partisan point-scoring. Stay on topic and stop trying to deflect valid criticism under the guise of national loyalty.
 
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