The Kashmir conflict 2025.

Russia had a stockpile of around four thousand cruise and ballistic missiles prior to the conflict in Ukraine. It burned through the vast majority of it in a year or so, and Ukraine was able to keep fighting.
It wasn’t until the full mobilization of Russian economy were they able to produce more but they are still nowhere close to pre war levels.

India has, at best, a quarter of what Russia has, and will have no way to replenish it as quickly either. Not saying India’s missiles cannot cause damage, they very well can. But India will have to use a significant chunk of their missiles to do just that, and be practically defenseless against China. Not only that, Pakistan is bound to get a stronger AD package in the future and probably invest heavily in ECM to disrupt navigation of Indian missiles.
One thing PAF should also invest in is the ability to shoot down missiles utilizing fighter aircraft. Unsure if current AAMs are to up to the task but may be worth a shot

Also, regarding Pakistan’s drones..


Very likely Pakistan has a good idea of India’s SAM network now.

From forum sources the F-16 took off as well but due to restrictions from the U.S. they were unfortunately unable to fire across the border. They were there to act as a line of defense in case someone pulled an Abinandan and crossed into Pakistan’s side. Unfortunately PL-15 made too big of a deterrent.

They still performed well intercepting Indian loitering munitions and missiles on the following day.

crazyinsane105 said:

One thing PAF should also invest in is the ability to shoot down missiles utilizing fighter aircraft. Unsure if current AAMs are to up to the task but may be worth a shot

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How is this possible given their already disadvantaged smaller fleet size, wouldn't they be preoccupied with other missions?

What lessons did the Indians take in this conflict? People were speculating maybe IAF will again look for the next magic airplane in F-35 or Su-57, or perhaps Indians may display a rare case of self consciousness and reflect on their institution and doctrinal weaknesses?

I think there is another possibility: That India simply accept the fact that they are no good in the air and it won't change any time soon. Instead they'll double down and play to their strength in long range ground strike capabilities in cruise missiles, ballistic missiles and drones.

They'll increase procurements in this direction so that in the next conflict they can deliver a overwhelming alpha strike that at minimum take PAF out of the equation for some time period and at maximum dealing considerable damage to PAF airframes and personal. In any case this will allow India's third rate air force to dominate the sky and deal sustained damage that way

enroger said:

What lessons did the Indians take in this conflict? People were speculating maybe IAF will again look for the next magic airplane in F-35 or Su-57, or perhaps Indians may display a rare case of self consciousness and reflect on their institution and doctrinal weaknesses?

I think there is another possibility: That India simply accept the fact that they are no good in the air and it won't change any time soon. Instead they'll double down and play to their strength in long range ground strike capabilities in cruise missiles, ballistic missiles and drones.

They'll increase procurements in this direction so that in the next conflict they can deliver a overwhelming alpha strike that at minimum take PAF out of the equation for some time period and at maximum dealing considerable damage to PAF airframes and personal. In any case this will allow India's third rate air force to dominate the sky and deal sustained damage that way

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Destruction of PAF or significant degradation of it is nuke red line threshold set by Pakistan. Unless India wants to test this out, I don’t think this is their intention

sometimes i guess you just gotta put it to the realworld test to see if the theories shake out
just like the indians did haha...

crazyinsane105 said:

One or two more batteries of HQ-9 definitely won’t hurt though. But agreed that long range missiles and drones cause very limited damage (unless targeting a large ammo dump, which didn’t happen in this conflict)

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Whats an ammo dump ? Like ammo depot?

GulfLander said:

Whats an ammo dump ? Like ammo depot?

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Yeah that’s what I meant. Given that majority of Indian ammo depots are well within Pakistani MRLS range in Kashmir, Pakistan really held back from hitting Indian troops in that region.

xyz4321 said:

Is this going to Paris?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1923300145807949929

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First of all, I hope the photos are real (I'm not good at identifying PS photos). Then the guy in the first photo doesn't look like Pakistani. Finally, according to the hit sites demonstrated by Pakistan, the five scores should belong to five different jets. If you paint all five scores on one jet, it doesn't seem fair.