The Kashmir conflict 2025.

Randomuser

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A common pattern I noticed at least recently with all these Indian conflicts with others is the Jai Hinds will keep boasting about how they won. However after things settled, the other sides start releasing more and more evidence embarrassing India which caused them to quiet down. This happened in 2019 and 2020.

I wonder what stuff will get released as the dust settles this time.
 
Gloire_bb

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Hayek said:
The real star of this conflict should have been the Erieye . There’s one piece of information that’s often overlooked in the analysis — how Pakistan managed to detect radar signals from deep inside Indian territory. We all know the hq-9 doesn't have that capability. So how did Pakistan achieve such comprehensive air situational awareness? The ZDK-03 AEW&C aircraft are currently with China, so the only system they have left is Erieye — and this performance has truly impressed people.
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IIRC there is optional passive SIGINT attachment to it(i.e. not standaline SIGINT). Don't quote me on that, but i think there is.
 
plawolf

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Hayek said:
The real star of this conflict should have been the Erieye . There’s one piece of information that’s often overlooked in the analysis — how Pakistan managed to detect radar signals from deep inside Indian territory. We all know the hq-9 doesn't have that capability. So how did Pakistan achieve such comprehensive air situational awareness? The ZDK-03 AEW&C aircraft are currently with China, so the only system they have left is Erieye — and this performance has truly impressed people.
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Except Erieye listed detection range is only 450km, and they stayed 300km within Pakistani airspace during the engagement.

Erieye is not being celebrated because Erieye is not what gave PAF such impressive insight deep into Indian airspace. Not even the Swedish manufacturers are trying to claim that credit because they more than anyone will know their system cannot do what was achieved.

There has already been hints given at what and who could have provided that situational awareness. But concrete proof will obviously not be forthcoming.
 
JayBird

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plawolf said:
Except Erieye listed detection range is only 450km, and they stayed 300km within Pakistani airspace during the engagement.

Erieye is not being celebrated because Erieye is not what gave PAF such impressive insight deep into Indian airspace. Not even the Swedish manufacturers are trying to claim that credit because they more than anyone will know their system cannot do what was achieved.

There has already been hints given at what and who could have provided that situational awareness. But concrete proof will obviously not be forthcoming.
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Just speculating, but it could be Chinese AEW&C plus satellite information from Chinese side pass on to Pakistani side. A two front war in information warfare before we even realized had happened.o_O
 
siegecrossbow

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GiantPanda said:
Are we certain the ZDK-03 are not in country? Linking up a chinese missile with a NATO standard AEW system can't be a simple task. You are talking about mid-course guidance which I imagine is about as tough as it gets when integrating systems.

That said, if the PL-15E can be integrated with mid-course guidance from any aerial radar system including off-pylon, dedicated AEW machines like Erieye then it opens up an endless potential for markets.

You might be talking about the PL-15E being fired from J-16s, MiG-29s and all kinds of other shit being guided by E-2 (Egypt) or Embraer 145 (Mexico.) LoL

I like to believe it but it can't be that simple.
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Yankeesama confirmed that AVIC helped them integrate datalink between J-10C and Erieye. At the time KJ-500 was not available for export and ZDK-03 is a bit lacking.
 
siegecrossbow

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plawolf said:
Except Erieye listed detection range is only 450km, and they stayed 300km within Pakistani airspace during the engagement.

Erieye is not being celebrated because Erieye is not what gave PAF such impressive insight deep into Indian airspace. Not even the Swedish manufacturers are trying to claim that credit because they more than anyone will know their system cannot do what was achieved.

There has already been hints given at what and who could have provided that situational awareness. But concrete proof will obviously not be forthcoming.
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Are you implying that KJ-500 did this in Tibet? That is a bit far fetched…
 
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