The Kashmir conflict 2025.

defenceman said:

Hi,
now they want USA to provide them full comprehensive 24/7 365 days a year,
and want to be dealt Pakistan like Iran, why can’t they understand they are not
A country like Israel they been supported to some extent to be a cannon fodder
against China, but we’ll well they can’t keep Pakistan at leash, so how will USA
and European countries even QUAD ones are not ready to give them a shoulder
to pass their tears trickling down with so much pain and buy someone who is a
solider by default and reached to the height of his military job
thank you

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It's ironic how quickly the narrative shifts when ground realities don’t align with expectations. Pakistan’s demonstrated capability, especially through the PAF’s Blinders Squadron in electronic warfare, the integration of Link 16 and 17 into its cyber warfare strategy, and the successful deployment of J-10 & JF17 (III) fighters equipped with PL-15 missiles, reflects a level of operational sophistication that cannot be overlooked. These assets, operated by highly trained personnel, delivered a coordinated response that clearly unsettled many.

Expecting the U.S. to provide support while simultaneously demanding to be treated like Iran in diplomatic and strategic terms shows a fundamental disconnect. They must understand that they are neither Israel with its institutionalized influence in the West nor are they central to the long-term security calculus of the Indo-Pacific.

They were supported only to serve as a counterweight to China, but unlike expectations, Pakistan hasn’t remained a proxy on a leash. The U.S., European powers, and even QUAD nations are unwilling to offer emotional support or strategic cover. Pakistan, meanwhile, isn’t seeking sympathy, it is asserting its position with discipline, capability, and strategic clarity.

Black Wolf said:

It's ironic how quickly the narrative shifts when ground realities don’t align with expectations. Pakistan’s demonstrated capability, especially through the PAF’s Blinders Squadron in electronic warfare, the integration of Link 16 and 17 into its cyber warfare strategy, and the successful deployment of J-10 & JF17 (III) fighters equipped with PL-15 missiles, reflects a level of operational sophistication that cannot be overlooked. These assets, operated by highly trained personnel, delivered a coordinated response that clearly unsettled many.

Expecting the U.S. to provide support while simultaneously demanding to be treated like Iran in diplomatic and strategic terms shows a fundamental disconnect. They must understand that they are neither Israel with its institutionalized influence in the West nor are they central to the long-term security calculus of the Indo-Pacific.

They were supported only to serve as a counterweight to China, but unlike expectations, Pakistan hasn’t remained a proxy on a leash. The U.S., European powers, and even QUAD nations are unwilling to offer emotional support or strategic cover. Pakistan, meanwhile, isn’t seeking sympathy, it is asserting its position with discipline, capability, and strategic clarity.

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For a long time, the US and the West were counting on India to offset China so they were quietly downplaying its many faults. The May 7 battle proved that India is unable to fulfill that role so the perception of the country has changed a lot. India has always only ever been on India's side and it has superpower aspirations so there's very little there for the US to work with. In fact, the Americans have been rebuiling their relations with Pakistan, and it's likely because they've mostly given up on India.

SteelBird said:

I just feel that the part of that missile simply too "intact". Should object falling from high sky impact hard and damage?

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Is this the lower end of that seeker thingy? Could be it was low flying fell at a straight angle and hit the lower end first.
To my knowledge there wasnt any plane crashed near jalandhar area so, either this is old or something neither side let known to public

tonyget said:

'Pakistan had live updates of India's important vectors from China'- Deputy Army Chief of India

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Its funny how he has a 'accusatory' tone when saying 'China uses pakistan as a dagger to harm us instead of doing it themselves in the northern territories'
Bruh are you implying that China should finish the job themselves? That you want an actual hot war with China..???

Black Wolf said:

He acknowledged Pakistan's effective use of electronic warfare assets (PAF's - Blinders Sqdn) and cyber operations (link 16 & 17) but did not mention the loss of aircrafts.

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He also said 'some indigenous systems didnt perform well' but failed to elaborate on which specifically but immediately later says they need 'counter rocket /missile systems' more, So ..its the Akash right??? Akash didnt perform well..
They didnt field Tejas so it cant be that, what other indigenous system could it be that didnt perform well..

ACuriousPLAFan said:

LMFAO, coming from Macron himself no less

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1936044715058905464

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Brutal.

4Tran said:

For a long time, the US and the West were counting on India to offset China so they were quietly downplaying its many faults. The May 7 battle proved that India is unable to fulfill that role so the perception of the country has changed a lot. India has always only ever been on India's side and it has superpower aspirations so there's very little there for the US to work with. In fact, the Americans have been rebuiling their relations with Pakistan, and it's likely because they've mostly given up on India.

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You're absolutely right that the May 7 battle was a turning point but not just in military terms. It exposed critical gaps in India’s operational readiness and shattered the long-sustained Western illusion of India being a reliable strategic counterweight to China. For years, the U.S. and its allies overlooked India’s internal contradictions, outdated doctrine, and inconsistent foreign policy simply because they hoped it would rise to meet China. That hope has now collided with reality.

On the other hand, Pakistan’s performance revealed a level of discipline and coordination the region hadn’t witnessed in years. These weren’t isolated tactical wins; they were carried out by highly trained personnel executing a sophisticated and coherent doctrine. And all of it was done without the noise or theatrics often seen across the border.

It’s becoming increasingly clear to U.S. and Western policymakers that India is fundamentally transactional, driven by its own ambitions rather than shared strategic interests. Its reluctance to fully commit to the Western camp, even when indulged, has created fatigue among allies. Meanwhile, Pakistan has quietly repositioned itself not by begging for relevance, but by demonstrating capability and strategic depth when it mattered most.

This shift isn’t just military, it’s perceptual. And for the first time in a long while, Washington seems more inclined to revisit its calculus in South Asia with clearer eyes.

An excellent piece by Parvin Sawhney....

Indian top general alleges China providing live targeting info to Pakistan and live intelligence, using Pakistan to test weapons. Similar accusation against Turkey on testing weapons. India claims it's fighting against 3 powers at once in Sindoor op.

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Indian top general alleges China providing live targeting info to Pakistan and live intelligence, using Pakistan to test weapons. Similar accusation against Turkey on testing weapons. India claims it's fighting against 3 powers at once in Sindoor op.

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Grapes are sour....

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Indian top general alleges China providing live targeting info to Pakistan and live intelligence, using Pakistan to test weapons. Similar accusation against Turkey on testing weapons. India claims it's fighting against 3 powers at once in Sindoor op.

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Can we that Pakistan was fighting Russia, France, israel , India and (considering vance's visit and hesitation later) some people of Us-administration too??

Turkiye is like 4000 Km away...