The Kashmir conflict 2025.

vincent

Grumpy Old Man
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That's a bit cruel and inhumane don't you think? We're talking about 1.4 billion people here and there lives are already hard enough with regards to securing adequate nutrition and access to clean water.
Look at it from another angle. Many people of the country are starving, yet the country already acts as a Supapowa and bullies everyone in the neighborhood. How will India behave when it is a lot more powerful?
 
Look at it from another angle. Many people of the country are starving, yet the country already acts as a Supapowa and bullies everyone in the neighborhood. How will India behave when it is a lot more powerful?
Humane approach is China can help Indians by inviting South Indians, East Indians and other marginalized ethnic groups within India for proper education within China, then support them with funds and arms so that they can achieve independence from India in a peaceful and bloodless manner.
 

vincent

Grumpy Old Man
Staff member
Moderator - World Affairs
Humane approach is China can help Indians by inviting South Indians, East Indians and other marginalized ethnic groups within India for proper education within China, then support them with funds and arms so that they can achieve independence from India in a peaceful and bloodless manner.
Sikh and people of Kashmir & Assam have tried to separate from India for how many years?
 

ZeEa5KPul

Colonel
Registered Member
That's a bit cruel and inhumane don't you think? We're talking about 1.4 billion people here and there lives are already hard enough with regards to securing adequate nutrition and access to clean water.
Whatever China can do is a second order effect. The primary determinant of India's fate - and why that fate is so grim - is India itself. If India was a reasonable sort of country, go along to get along, etc. like China was when it was coming up, the moral argument would hold more weight - in that case China would just be a belligerent aggressor. India made that a moot point with its abhorrent ideology and behavior. If this is how it acts when it's poor and weak, how do you think it would be if (Heaven forbid) it ever became wealthy and strong?

Last but not least, geopolitics is a dirty and ugly business. The right play is often to hamstring a potential competitor no matter how congenial they are.
Humane approach is China can help Indians by inviting South Indians, East Indians and other marginalized ethnic groups within India for proper education within China, then support them with funds and arms so that they can achieve independence from India in a peaceful and bloodless manner.
If splitting India apart in a bloodless manner were possible I would wholeheartedly support it. The point isn't to inflict unnecessary pain, it's to render India into a non-factor.
 
This is what their civilians are posting and commenting on internet. They would literally commit genocide if they could.
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India is a failed multiethnic state with deep internal divisions. In order to channel the intense internal hate between different ethnic groups within India, the ruling BJP needs to rechannel that hatred towards external groups via a pseudo-historical quasi-mythical artificially manufactured fanatic ideology that is Hinduvta nationalism. Otherwise, Indians would devolve back into attempting ethnic cleansing against one another (remember the horrors happening in East India last summer?). The only humane and long term solution is to divide India among ethnic and historical boundaries into multiple smaller and more stable states.
 

Randomuser

Senior Member
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India is an amalgamation of different states and ethnic groups that had nothing to do with one another prior to British colonization. India as a unified state or even civilization is a fantasy. Indians would be much better off if they realize that the idea of a united India is a failed project and divide the country along natural ethnic and historical boundaries. The South of India should be split into multiple small states, the Eastern portions of India should be granted independence, either as a single nation or multiple nations, and Sikkim should be granted independence again. What remains of Northern India can continue as India's successor state. The faster Indians can accept reality and do the needful the better it is for everyone. History has proven and human nature dictates that large multiethnic states can never last and are destined for failure and Balkanization.
I don't get how Jai Hinds are so confident India will last. Look at Yugoslavia. I'm sure some nationalists pretty confident back then. Yet look how fast it fell apart where everyone kind of accepted it was a bad idea from the start.
 

ougoah

Brigadier
Registered Member
I don't get how Jai Hinds are so confident India will last. Look at Yugoslavia. I'm sure some nationalists pretty confident back then. Yet look how fast it fell apart where everyone kind of accepted it was a bad idea from the start.

Because the Indian tolerance for misery and shithole dwelling is the highest in humans. Simultaneously, the Indian capacity for delusion and self assurance in the face of inconvenient realities and truths is also unmatched by the rest of humanity.

These attributes in combination ensure Indian state remaining as is regardless of how bad it gets.
 

vincent

Grumpy Old Man
Staff member
Moderator - World Affairs
I don't get how Jai Hinds are so confident India will last. Look at Yugoslavia. I'm sure some nationalists pretty confident back then. Yet look how fast it fell apart where everyone kind of accepted it was a bad idea from the start.
Yugoslavia broke apart because the US and European spent considerable amount of effort to do so. India is too big and the central government is too strong for that to happen.
 
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