The Kashmir conflict 2025.

AndrewJ

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Confirm: Indian captured pilot by Paki is FAKE news. Neither sides shot any fighter down after 7/5 air combat. (Paki military press conference)

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However, during a press conference on 11th May, Director General of Pakistan’s Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), Ahmed Sharif Chaudhary, confirmed that none of the Indian pilots have been taken into custody by Pakistani forces. The Pakistani DG ISPR said that the claims of the capture of an Indian female pilot were only social media chatter. This came in response to a reporter’s question that international media have reported the capture of an Indian female pilot by Pakistan, and whether this is true and if true, is Pakistan will return the pilot.
“So, I can confirm you, we don’t have any pilot in custody. This is all social media chatter. This is all part of multiple sources of fake news and propaganda that has been generated from multiple sources,” the DG ISPR said.
 
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AndrewJ

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10% possibility of saving face measure to end this.

CCTV and AI Jazeera claim a captured pilot from a Pakistani military source.

Doubtful whether crashing another Rafale & capaturing a pilot could go on so secretly? No witness or visual evidence spreading everywhere? :eek:

Also doubtful that IAF would continue send jets in the air, especially cross Paki border after severe combat defeat?

CCTV & AI Jazeera are just refering yesterday's sources from Paki military. There're lots of reports saying Paki wrongly took a shot down UAV as Rafale. :rolleyes:
 
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sutton999

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Doubtful whether crashing another Rafale & capaturing a pilot could go on so secretly? No witness or visual evidence spreading everywhere? :eek:

Also doubtful that IAF would continue send jets in the air, especially cross Paki border after severe combat defeat?

CCTV & AI Jazeera are just refering yesterday's sources from Paki military. There're lots of reports saying Paki wrongly took a shot down UAV as Rafale. :rolleyes:

One of the 5 crashes, there is one crash site of Rafale (marked by PAF) very close (7nm) to the border.
 

xyz4321

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For Pakistan, A-100 is enough. It has enough range to target critical ammunition depots and large troop concentrations. India’s entire methodology is a two corps strike formation consisting of several thousand armored vehicles. Anything under 100 miles on the ground will be prey for A-100 combined with satellite reconnaissance.
Majority of the fighting by ground forces will be restricted to the Punjab region. The rest is mountains, desert, and marsh/mangroves.
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pokepara

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Two pro-China Marxists (a Pakistanian and an Indian) discuss the political and media situation in both their countries:
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(Youtube)

I realise it's not strictly about the military, but it definitely affects the situation.

Not much surprising in their views for people of this thread (they agree that they should both just focus on economic and educational development) but it is good to see sane perspectives in the countries.


Have to admit, Putin don't have a propaganda army of 1.4 billion, who trust themselves are winning no matter what's real.

Also, Putin's goal, to replace Zelensky, is far less flexible than this conflict. India can end the operation because its initial goal was to bomb some random buildings (w/ or w/o terrorists), which is simple & fulfilled already. It's Paki's rapid response that make things complicated & out of control now.

Putin's goal is not to replace an empty puppet, it is to create a new security architecture in Europe. In this, he seems to have succeeded as the EU's collapsing economies and declining diplomatic power has shown.
 

tphuang

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my assessment of the entire PAF disclosure. now, keep in mind that PAF could be making stuff up here, but what they released really is very alarming for IAF.

I don't actually think buying Su-57 would help IAF too much actually. If Pakistan is picking up most of the IAF aircraft 300 km away from border through ELINT, then India is just giving away with its position from emissions way too much.

Also, how can your Rafale get taken down 70 km from border without even seeing the incoming missile? that is seriously crazy stuff to me.

If IAF continues to fight like this, they'd lose 100 out of 100 times.

there is also the very real likelihood that Chinese satellites and radar stations were providing RT update to Pakistan while this is happening.

Which would be a huge advantage to Pakistan.

It's unclear to me at this point just what type of battlefield awareness IAF had. Did they know how many PAF aircraft they were facing?
 

Observer1

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10% possibility of saving face measure to end this.

CCTV and AI Jazeera claim a captured pilot from a Pakistani military source.
I don't want to contribute to rumours here but in Pakistan the entire 'pilot captured' was a huge rumour going around and there were actual clips of a pilot parachuting into the Azad Kashmir territory with people looking for them.

Major journalists reported on it, then everyone went into denial. Some journalists are claiming the news is true — but there is a precondition to the ceasefire that you don't show the pilot to the media.

By the way, the person who asked the question during the press conference is a local propaganda channel, it seems planted, especially how quickly he responded.

Legit footage

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