The Kashmir conflict 2025.

reservior dogs

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Tactical nukes were needed to ward off Cold Start doctrine, something IA isn’t even implementing because it comes with its own drawbacks. Mainly that advancements in Pakistani arms procurements will make Cold Start doctrine terribly ineffective.

Only way for India to dominate will be through a full on war, and that’s when nukes come into play. Even besides that…let’s look at Russia and Ukraine. Russia is simply failing in many of its aspects to quell Ukraine. Size simply doesn’t matter as much when each side has significant quantities of artillery and manpower.
If India is stupid enough to start a ground offensive without the control of the skies, drones will be enough to pick off most of the armor from the Indian side. Once the armor is immobile, the foot soldiers will be picked off with artillery and ground attack air assets as well as drones. The Russo-Ukrainian war has pointed us the way. This will provide the Chinese a good case for testing out their drone warfare.
 

crazyinsane105

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A-100 is pretty backwards at this day and age. A-300 with capability to strike 200-500km (Fire Dragon 750) at regiment level and SR5 at Battalion level. Along with the counter battery, target designation & acquisition & counter counter battery. If we are talking rocket artillery. Got to have overmatch as deterrent factor.
For Pakistan, A-100 is enough. It has enough range to target critical ammunition depots and large troop concentrations. India’s entire methodology is a two corps strike formation consisting of several thousand armored vehicles. Anything under 100 miles on the ground will be prey for A-100 combined with satellite reconnaissance.

Rememner, it took India a full 3 months to mobilize its entire military back in 2001 and 2008. Time isn’t on India’s side anymore if they want to do a full scale war, especially in the day and age of MRLS and satellite recon
 

crazyinsane105

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If India is stupid enough to start a ground offensive without the control of the skies, drones will be enough to pick off most of the armor from the Indian side. Once the armor is immobile, the foot soldiers will be picked off with artillery and ground attack air assets as well as drones. The Russo-Ukrainian war has pointed us the way. This will provide the Chinese a good case for testing out their drone warfare.
Agreed. Drone guided artillery will devastate entire columns of Indian armor.
 

lych470

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Has there been much report or info on the outcomes of the Operation Bunyan al Marsoos? Trawled through the last dozen of pages but there isn't much discussion on the retaliatory Pakistan strike. There are rumours that another IAF Rafale was shot down and a pilot captured, which I find unlikely; a S-400 battery was neutralised by JF-17s, but I haven't seen any proof.

If India did indeed manage to strike a PAF AWACS on the ground with its crew, then that would go some way of assuaging their wounded pride. Some weibo accounts claimed that 5 pilots were killed during the strike.

I see some similar trends between the Operation Sindoor and the Battle of Jutland; each countries' armed forces did slug it out, but the Kriegsmarine, having earned a tactical victory, became a fleet-in-being afterwards and did little else in WWI. India may never again risk its prized air assets in a future conflict with Pakistan, but will instead send in waves of drones, loitering munitions, ALCMs and ballistic missiles to overwhelm the Pakistani air defence. This feels very much like an Iran vs. Israel situation, with India seeking asymmetric advantages.

Pakistan definitely needs to invest in new doctrines in its air defence; perhaps drone warfare will become a big component of joint exercises between Pakistan, China, and the Gulf Monarchies.
 

neutralobserver

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Has there been much report or info on the outcomes of the Operation Bunyan al Marsoos? Trawled through the last dozen of pages but there isn't much discussion on the retaliatory Pakistan strike. There are rumours that another IAF Rafale was shot down and a pilot captured, which I find unlikely; a S-400 battery was neutralised by JF-17s, but I haven't seen any proof.

If India did indeed manage to strike a PAF AWACS on the ground with its crew, then that would go some way of assuaging their wounded pride. Some weibo accounts claimed that 5 pilots were killed during the strike.

I see some similar trends between the Operation Sindoor and the Battle of Jutland; each countries' armed forces did slug it out, but the Kriegsmarine, having earned a tactical victory, became a fleet-in-being afterwards and did little else in WWI. India may never again risk its prized air assets in a future conflict with Pakistan, but will instead send in waves of drones, loitering munitions, ALCMs and ballistic missiles to overwhelm the Pakistani air defence. This feels very much like an Iran vs. Israel situation, with India seeking asymmetric advantages.

Pakistan definitely needs to invest in new doctrines in its air defence; perhaps drone warfare will become a big component of joint exercises between Pakistan, China, and the Gulf Monarchies.

AWACS news is just Indian SM. 1 Pilot was killed along with 4 ground staff members in an attack on Bholari Airbase.
 

LCR34

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For Pakistan, A-100 is enough. It has enough range to target critical ammunition depots and large troop concentrations. India’s entire methodology is a two corps strike formation consisting of several thousand armored vehicles. Anything under 100 miles on the ground will be prey for A-100 combined with satellite reconnaissance.

Rememner, it took India a full 3 months to mobilize its entire military back in 2001 and 2008. Time isn’t on India’s side anymore if they want to do a full scale war, especially in the day and age of MRLS and satellite recon
Well A-100 risk being hit by BM-30 that India has. BM30 can strike 100-200km depending on what rocket India has.
 
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