Both ground forces are terrible and appearently both India and pakistan have only a few days of ammunition. There is a reason why all Indo-Pak wars only last few days due to lack of ammunition. They are heavily import dependent. Ukraine has the soviet legacy, otherwize Russia would have wiped them out in a few days due to lack of ammunition and supplies.
The Kashmir conflict 2025.
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FriedRiceNSpice
Captain
Doesn't India at least have domestic production facilities for shells and ammunition? You'd think with an $80 billion defense budget at least enough of it will be left after the corruption and kickbacks to at supply the army with basic munitions and war materiel.
There are rumors and photos of the HQ-9s intercepting a S-400 missile as well as Pakistani claims that HQ-9s took down Rafales (the latter should be taken with a grain of salt).
That said, the videos you posted seem to show AA artillery rather than SAMs.
Most of the things getting lobbed at Pakistan is within the envelope for HQ-17 interception (which Pakistan has), HQ-9 seems overkill for drones and cruise missiles.
Yeah, but India also used ballistic missiles and possibly ALCMs against air bases in Pakistan.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
Was it even on the base? The video you showed was just some explosion somewhere. The next day, the base was fully operational; the aircraft Indians claimed to have damaged/destroyed took off. Chinese satellite imagery showed minimal damage.
Yeah, you're missing the biggest disinformation spreader on the list, which is India. I can't even list all the provable nonsense coming out of India. Do you even want me to?
Why leaning towards it? LOL If you like track record, India has the worst track record for honesty.
Not really. Aircraft occupy a very small percentage of surface area of an air base. They typically need to be precision-targeted.
You got that right, with India's media telling everyone the no Rafales were down and Chinese JF-17/PL-15 orders were being cancelled.
Saying that there's no evidence but you lean towards believing it because it benefits an Indian narrative doesn't pass the smell test.
...but AESA seeker can also see much further and scan that volume much faster (provided there's more than one ray).
Plus, of course, last ditch defenses.
HQ-9B cost around 5 million RMB per missile which is around 700k USD, the smaller version cost even less. PLA definitely has no problem deploying them
To my knowledge HQ-9 is deployed around Malir Cantt area. I presume that Karachi (Possibly Jinnah airport or Faisal base) was also targeted by missiles but all were intercepted which is an exception compared to most of the other airbases that were targeted. Hence, I'm inclined to believe this was a problem of numbers as @Neurosmith has pointed out.
That said one would expect some missile debris to be found from the ensuing interceptions, so I'm on the fence on it.
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