The Kashmir conflict 2025.

tamsen_ikard

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Based on observations on the India-Pakistan skirmishes as of present, there are three categories which I believe that the Pakistani military should pile on, improve on, and add on respectively. Could be understated or overstated, of course.

1. Better things that should be piled on to further strengthen the advantages:
- Procure additional medium fighters, i.e. J-10CE in greater numbers to replace the older batches of F-16s;
- Procure additional light fighters, i.e. JF-17 in greater numbers that would entirely replace all the Mirages and F-7s;
- Procure additional AEW&C aircrafts, i.e. Erieye to enable greater degree of continuous radar coverage along the entire frontlines;
- Procure additional dedicated EW (ECM and ESM) aircraft platforms that would enable the soft kill of enemy munitions, as well as disrupting enemy aerial combat operations; and
- Procure additional aerial tankers to extend loiter duration of allied warplanes.

2. Not so good things that should be improved upon to remedy deficiencies and rectify problems:
- Procure more LRSAM batteries, i.e. HQ-9 and/or HQ-22 to intercept enemy missiles at long ranges;
- Procure more MRSAM batteries, i.e. HQ-16 and/or HQ-11 to intercept enemy missiles at medium ranges;
- Procure more SRSAM + CIWS + DEW batteries, i.e. HQ-17 + LD2000 to intercept enemy missiles and drone swarms at short/close-in distances;
- Procure land-based EW platforms to soft-kill enemy missiles and drone swarms; and
- Procure more MALE/HALE U(C)AV platforms to assist in reconnaissance, early-warning and strike missions.

3. Things that should be newly added into the inventory for greater battlefield impact:
- Procure 5th-generation fighters, i.e. J-35s and KAAN (if the latter can enter production in time), which would be useful for establishing technological parity with the enemy at the very least;
- Procure dedicated ELINT/SIGINT aircraft platforms to enable reconnaissance and early-warning in the EM domain; and
- Procure strategic ABM and AHM platforms to defend against potential enemy MRBM, IRBM and hypersonic missile attacks.

Oh, and one more thing - Greater degree of OPSEC enforcement is needed.
The most important thing Pakistan needs is complete alignment with China. At this point it's clear that China is the savior of Pakistan. The more pakistan can make itself valuable, the more support it will get from China.
 

Hayek

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Based on observations on the India-Pakistan skirmishes as of present, there are three categories which I believe that the Pakistani military should pile on, improve on, and add on respectively. Could be understated or overstated, of course.

1. Better things that should be piled on to further strengthen the advantages:
- Procure additional medium fighters, i.e. J-10CE in greater numbers to replace the older batches of F-16s;
- Procure additional light fighters, i.e. JF-17 in greater numbers that would entirely replace all the Mirages and F-7s;
- Procure additional AEW&C aircrafts, i.e. Erieye to enable greater degree of continuous radar coverage along the entire frontlines;
- Procure additional dedicated EW (ECM and ESM) aircraft platforms that would enable the soft kill of enemy munitions, as well as disrupting enemy aerial combat operations; and
- Procure additional aerial tankers to extend loiter duration of allied warplanes.

2. Not so good things that should be improved upon to remedy deficiencies and rectify problems:
- Procure more LRSAM batteries, i.e. HQ-9 and/or HQ-22 to intercept enemy missiles at long ranges;
- Procure more MRSAM batteries, i.e. HQ-16 and/or HQ-11 to intercept enemy missiles at medium ranges;
- Procure more SRSAM + CIWS + DEW batteries, i.e. HQ-17 + LD2000 to intercept enemy missiles and drone swarms at short/close-in distances;
- Procure land-based EW platforms to soft-kill enemy missiles and drone swarms; and
- Procure more MALE/HALE U(C)AV platforms to assist in reconnaissance, early-warning and strike missions.

3. Things that should be newly added into the inventory for greater battlefield impact:
- Procure 5th-generation fighters, i.e. J-35s and KAAN (if the latter can enter production in time), which would be useful for establishing technological parity with the enemy at the very least;
- Procure dedicated ELINT/SIGINT aircraft platforms to enable reconnaissance and early-warning in the EM domain; and
- Procure strategic ABM and AHM platforms to defend against potential enemy MRBM, IRBM and hypersonic missile attacks.

Oh, and one more thing - Greater degree of OPSEC enforcement is needed.
Who will pay for it? The cost of one J-10CE fighter jet, with each aircraft equipped with 10 PL-15E missiles, is around $75 million per unit. Pakistan simply cannot afford to expand its fleet any further. What Pakistan needs now is to focus all its efforts on developing its economy.
 

Nevermore

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The most important thing Pakistan needs is complete alignment with China. At this point it's clear that China is the savior of Pakistan. The more pakistan can make itself valuable, the more support it will get from China.
I think if Pakistan can become richer on its own, China is already very grateful. The current problems in Pakistan are all due to being too poor.
 

FriedButter

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Explosions heard over Pakistan-administered Kashmir​

From CNN’s Sophia Saifi in Islamabad
The sounds of multiple explosions were heard over Pakistan-administered Kashmir early Saturday evening local time.

In videos shared with CNN from the Bhimber district, dozens of explosions can be heard reverberating through the sky in rapid bursts. The videos also appear to show specks of light, possibly projectiles flying through the air.

A local government source told CNN that the explosions were attacks from the Indian side of the Line of Control, the mutually agreed upon ceasefire line in Kashmir.

CNN is unable to verify these claims and has reached out to the Pakistan and Indian militaries for comment.
 

00CuriousObserver

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Who will pay for it? The cost of one J-10CE fighter jet, with each aircraft equipped with 10 PL-15E missiles, is around $75 million per unit. Pakistan simply cannot afford to expand its fleet any further. What Pakistan needs now is to focus all its efforts on developing its economy.

Orca mentioned that the existing J-10CEs were already purchased on credit, so...
 

Sinnavuuty

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The most important thing Pakistan needs is complete alignment with China. At this point it's clear that China is the savior of Pakistan. The more pakistan can make itself valuable, the more support it will get from China.
In a way, this was a victory for China, more specifically for Chinese military technology... of course, the main credit should go to the Pakistanis.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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Who will pay for it? The cost of one J-10CE fighter jet, with each aircraft equipped with 10 PL-15E missiles, is around $75 million per unit. Pakistan simply cannot afford to expand its fleet any further. What Pakistan needs now is to focus all its efforts on developing its economy.

To be fair, what I've said is based on the best-case scenario where Pakistan is wealthy enough to procure and operate them, such that Pakistan's military becomes absolutely formidable in South Asia and be capable of effectively deter and defend any Jai Hind misadventures.

You could see that as a wishlist.

But of course, since the perfect Pakistan does not exist in our timeline, then the not-perfect Pakistan in our timeline must make do with what they can have (and suck up any incurred losses due to the inadequate degree of preparations in the defense sector).

Thankfully, China managed to get through that stage to arrive at what she is today. Could Pakistan ever do the same? I don't think I have the answer.
 
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