The Kashmir conflict 2025.

crazyinsane105

crazyinsane105

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generalmeng said:
I disagree, because china can also take out India in a nuclear exchange. India leadership isn't interested in mutual assured destruction. Neither is USA interested in a hyperinflation for the next 10 years.

Selling hypersonic missile to pakistan will piss off indians for sure, but it would be against the missile export restriction. I believe its limited to less than 300km, and that is pretty much useless, because indian carrier would be parked outside the 300km.

not to mention, china probably don't want the technology leak, because hypersonice anti carrier missile is china's ace card against american carrier. uncle sam will be more than happy to give a few trillion loan to get some samples.
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Is there even a need? All China needs to do is provide Pakistan the approximate location of the Indian strike groups. Pakistan has anti carrier missiles that can reach out to 300 km, and it’s available for both JF-17 and J-10. A PAF contingent of a dozen aircraft, with a tanker and AWAC, along with a few PN ships, will be more than enough to take care of both carrier strike groups with ease. This isn’t a USN carrier group, it’s Indian one. They have much less situational awareness and their MiG-29s are terribly outclassed by both J-10 and JF-17

If Pakistan is to make a significant land move into Kashmir, it’s only logical to strike hard at the IN simultaneously. Maybe this is what is in the works..
 
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generalmeng

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crazyinsane105 said:
Is there even a need? All China needs to do is provide Pakistan the approximate location of the Indian strike groups. Pakistan has anti carrier missiles that can reach out to 300 km, and it’s available for both JF-17 and J-10. A PAF contingent of a dozen aircraft, with a tanker and AWAC, along with a few PN ships, will be more than enough to take care of both carrier strike groups with ease. This isn’t a USN carrier group, it’s Indian one. They have much less situational awareness and their MiG-29s are terribly outclassed by both J-10 and JF-17

If Pakistan is to make a significant land move into Kashmir, it’s only logical to strike hard at the IN simultaneously. Maybe this is what is in the works..
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the hypersonic missile are ballistic missiles. at least I was assuming that was the discussion. KD 21 are airbased, but on H6 bomber, probably too heavy for regular jets.

then it would be land based. so carrier group stay 300km and more away should be safe.
 
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Overbom

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Zahid said:
Woah! I just watched DGISPR hold a very short press conference to give news that Indians have fired 6 Ballistic Missiles from Adampur (in Jallandhar District, Indian Punjab). 1 has landed in Adampur; 5 have hit around Amritsar. He said that India is targeting the area of its own Sikh people to turn them against Pakistan.

I would ordinarily be very skeptical, but this is Indian govt we are dealing with here.
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Saw it as well by DGISPR.

India has lost it lol

Another false flag for what? Force major power to stop Pakistan from retaliating is imo the only plausible reason

Imagine deliberately bombing your own country lmao
 
crazyinsane105

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generalmeng said:
the hypersonic missile are ballistic missiles. at least I was assuming that was the discussion. KD 21 are airbased, but on H6 bomber, probably too heavy for regular jets.

then it would be land based. so carrier group stay 300km and more away should be safe.
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Agreed, but my point is that there isn’t a need for anti ship ballistic missiles for PN. What ever they currently have should be sufficient. All they need is some satellite reconnaissance
 
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tamsen_ikard

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Observer1 said:
Pakistan is severely outmatched in any naval skirmish. The most it has is some Chinese C-400AKG missiles. There's a chance that Indians begin prodding in that arena if or when Pakistan retaliates in their mainland.

What can Pakistan do?
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Air superiority is basically everything in a naval fight. If you have air superiority, navy ships are basically sitting ducks. Pakistan can easily use its air power to sink whatever Indian navy ships come near by. Indian air craft carriers have very old Mig 29k which will be target practice for J-10C. Once that happens, every navy ships will be easily destroyed by air launched anti-ship missiles. India will be absolutely suicidal to try an attack on Pakistan using ships.

Yes, in the open sea 1000 miles from shore, India will dominate since pakistan lacks navy ships and carriers. But within the range of land based fighters, Indian navy has absolutely no chance.
 
manqiangrexue

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FirebirdFan said:
As if China didn't consider wrecks get captured all the time, these people are funny :D
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So not worried about this. This is a missile from 10 years ago, built for export, that blew its own head off... if it's even real and not an Indian cheap trick. Each one of those things is a layer of protection.

1. Missiles are built to be lost in enemy territory; by that nature, they are built with protections against essential data loss from dissection even in the event of an intact capture.
2. The export version is built with even less oppertunity for sensitive information to be gotten in the event that they are targeted by spies during operation. Pakistanis and Indians are not easily distinguished by sight; China would be stupid not to assume that there are Indian spies in Pakistan's military (and vice versa).
3. 10 years to a country that advances as fast as China means the equipment is unrecognizable from its modern equivalent.
4. The fucking head exploded.
 
Gloire_bb

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crazyinsane105 said:
Is there even a need? All China needs to do is provide Pakistan the approximate location of the Indian strike groups. Pakistan has anti carrier missiles that can reach out to 300 km, and it’s available for both JF-17 and J-10. A PAF contingent of a dozen aircraft, with a tanker and AWAC, along with a few PN ships, will be more than enough to take care of both carrier strike groups with ease. This isn’t a USN carrier group, it’s Indian one. They have much less situational awareness and their MiG-29s are terribly outclassed by both J-10 and JF-17

If Pakistan is to make a significant land move into Kashmir, it’s only logical to strike hard at the IN simultaneously. Maybe this is what is in the works..
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J-10C and JF-17blk.3 are rather unlikely to be spared for the coast. Pakistan is big enough as to make you choose where to deploy.
tamsen_ikard said:
Indian air craft carriers have very old Mig 29k which will be target practice for J-10C.
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10 years old.
It's basically a heavy counterpart to JF-17blk.2.
 
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