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siegecrossbow

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This Chinese OSINT said that he wants to take a break from reading Indian news/military reports because he felt as if his brain is getting polluted from all the outrageous BS.

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In other news, I’ve been checking out an Arab forum I’ve been following for a while and everyone is salivating at the chance to acquire a potent fighter “not controlled by Zionist interests”.
 
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iewgnem

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siegecrossbow said:
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Apparently someone on F-16.net read it and found it very distressing and am curious what the analyst actually said…
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Its so cute they refer to J10 and PL15 as "China's most capable weapon"

Theres a couple new pictures online of tge recovered PL15's AESA seeker/TR modules from other angles, print says it was manufactured in 2015, is using Ku band and by rough count has between 400 to 600 radiating elements. To put things into perspective Rafale's RBE2 has 838 elements.

That number of elements on a missile AESA is pretty insane even if parallel driven, its no surprise Rafale's SPECTRA suite was useless against it, and since most Ku band seekers are PD type, chances are with LPI mode Rafale's missile warning receiver didnt even go off.

On the flip side that PL15 AESA seeker remain is proberbly currently the most advanced piece of technology India ever had their hands on
 
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defenceman

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Hi,
why do I feel like Indian govt will accept downing of their jet & probably a mirage but
in lieu of friendly fire to shut the mouth of observers and to spread the fog for hiding
Rafale engine, another thing can be to get asap couple of more Rafale to complete the
numbers, nothing to worry about SU or mig29 planes as they are alreday in back burner
now to get the 3/4 quickly can be requested through UAE lot or Greece can accommodate
IAF in a rush
thank you
 
manqiangrexue

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Joliex10 said:
I never believed anything from Reuters after their report of a Chinese Nuclear powered Submarine sinking without a ounce of evidence.

I didn't believe in that article, i'm not believing in this one either. Both provided not a single ounce of evidence.
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That's extremely poor logic. That's basically saying that if person makes one mistake, he cannot do anything right in his life. They reported a Chinese submarine sinking without evidence. They reported an Indian Rafale shootdown with parts of the aircraft on the ground and a confirmation from France. If they reported the Chinese sub sinking with parts of the sub floating in the water or washed ashore, I'd believe them too.
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Example if this one showed the debris / carcasses of the two Indian jet that was shot down
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We have a tail and an engine of a Rafale. Indians don't consider this debris?
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or it source information from Indian military officials or Dassault then i would believe it.
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But not a French intelligence official because that's what we got? LOL You realize that Dassault answers to French intelligence officers, right?
 
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Han Patriot

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Joliex10 said:
I'm just a fair non bias person who doesn't just blindly believe in everything i hear, if it's from Rueters or even global times.

eg - If Rueters had official confirmation from a chinese military official that a chinese submarine sunk, i would believe. but If they don't and they instead have images of a submarine being pulled out of the water with cranes, then i would believe them also. But they have none.

Same thing with this article. They don't have an official confirmation from dassault or indian military official, they don't have videos/photos of the shot down jets. i would be a hypocrite to believe this article.

I will eat my words one day if any more evidence comes out, but right now. it's not enough to confirm anything.
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Well, the Chinese sub story was based on a satellite image of a submarine which is designed to 'sink' analysed by an armchair general on the internet. His evidence was the appearance of 3 cranes. That is circumstantial evidence, could it have been some material lost in that area? Or some lifting test? nobody knows, but Western media is extremely biased against China, they will tend to veer towards the negative .

In the case of the current Rafale debacle, we have official Pak announcement of shooting down Rafales, might be exaggerated, but something was shot, we have photographic evidence of Snecma M-88 engines, we have Indian media reporting 3 crashes and then retracting. We have complete silence from Indian GOI. We have PL-15E debris, we have 3 unaccounted Baker seat ejections, there is just too much evidence to ignore. My guess, at least 3 planes were lost/shot/crashed by unknown means, could be incompetence, could have been friendly fire, could have been shot. And the most critical of all, Western media has no incentive to potray Chinese weapons positively, something shocking must have happened for them to report it this way, and even then they are painting it as Indian incompetence rather than Chinese weapon technology superiority.

So tell us what crashed in Bathinda?

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1 civilian dead, 9 injured as unidentified aircraft crashes in village near Bathinda Air Force base​


We even know the BS001 serial number, simple just show us whether BS-001 is still alive but then judging from Indian ego, they might actually repaint one of their Rafales as BS001.LOLOL
 
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