The Kashmir conflict 2025.

subotai1

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I keep seeing China will jump in and China will do this or that. I am not buying it. I think China has far more to gain by being the adult in the room and either being quiet or negotiating peace between India and Pakistan. Between a rogue Putin, an untrustworthy United States and this, China could emerge as the only responsible superpower. And that would bring a lot of benefits.
 

neutralobserver

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I keep seeing China will jump in and China will do this or that. I am not buying it. I think China has far more to gain by being the adult in the room and either being quiet or negotiating peace between India and Pakistan. Between a rogue Putin, an untrustworthy United States and this, China could emerge as the only responsible superpower. And that would bring a lot of benefits.
I think Pakistan even wouldn't even need China step in. We have a fairly large Army, Navy and Air Force (Much bigger then Ukraine) which can handle India. I would imagine Pakistan would just need weapon supplies (which can be paid off after the war) in worse case scenario i.e full scale war (which i assume wouldn't be a problem for China).
 
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Rafi

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Interesting, I have noticed the Pakistan military has always packed a bigger punch than it seems given the country economic size, development and military budget. One the things I have noticed is that the country has an impressive military industrial complex with a strong focus in technology transfer. By co-developing its own weapons with countries like China gives Pakistan an significant operational advantage than countries that merely buy weapons, like most Gulf states do.

when you face an existential threat from a country much larger and with much more resources, then you put everything into your defence, plus Pakistan people come from a warrior culture, where valor, honour, and hospitality are greatly appreciated. Also the fact fhat the nation is “home” and its peace has been violated resonates greatly among Pakistani people.

another big reason is when Pakistan was born, there was a genocide where millions dead, and people still have a genetic memory of this.
 

Joliex10

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It's true Reuters reported it:

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Reuters also claimed that a chinese nuclear submarine sank without any evidence...
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Are you one of those people that is.

Reuters - J-10C shot down two Indian jet = "Yes sirrrrr!!! very good sir, very true sir"
Reuters - Chinese nuclear powered submarine sank = "No Sirrrrrr!!!! Not true, very bias sir, very racist sir"

So unless anyone here can admit China's nuclear powered submarine sunk without a ounce of evidence. Don't believe everything from Reuters
 

siegecrossbow

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Reuters also claimed that a chinese nuclear submarine sank without any evidence...
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Are you one of those people that is.

Reuters - J-10C shot down two Indian jet = "Yes sirrrrr!!! very good sir, very true sir"
Reuters - Chinese nuclear powered submarine sank = "No Sirrrrrr!!!! Not true, very bias sir, very racist sir"

So unless anyone here can admit China's nuclear powered submarine sunk without a ounce of evidence. Don't believe everything from Reuters

Dude, give it a rest. They can report nuclear sub sinking in a negative light because China and U.S. are adversaries. What’s the motive to play up Chinese capabilities?

When Indian officials are asked about the aircraft crashes, why do they say “no comment” instead of denying it outright? If they have nothing to hide why don’t they just show that BS001 is flying?
 

Thecore

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Reuters also claimed that a chinese nuclear submarine sank without any evidence...
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Are you one of those people that is.

Reuters - J-10C shot down two Indian jet = "Yes sirrrrr!!! very good sir, very true sir"
Reuters - Chinese nuclear powered submarine sank = "No Sirrrrrr!!!! Not true, very bias sir, very racist sir"

So unless anyone here can admit China's nuclear powered submarine sunk without a ounce of evidence. Don't believe everything from Reuters
This is one of the most fallacious uses of logic in an argument I've ever seen. I suggest you 1. Look up the definition of the phrase "surrounding circumstances". 2. Take a first year level college Critical Thinking course.

Also why would he react by saying "sir" in between every word of his sentence. Are you implying he is Indian? Although Indians would pronounce it "saar".
 

Joliex10

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Dude, give it a rest. They can report nuclear sub sinking in a negative light because China and U.S. are adversaries. What’s the motive to play up Chinese capabilities?

When Indian officials are asked about the aircraft crashes, why do they say “no comment” instead of denying it outright? If they have nothing to hide why don’t they just show that BS001 is flying?
I never believed anything from Reuters after their report of a Chinese Nuclear powered Submarine sinking without a ounce of evidence.

I didn't believe in that article, i'm not believing in this one either. Both provided not a single ounce of evidence.

Example if this one showed the debris / carcasses of the two Indian jet that was shot down or it source information from Indian military officials or Dassault then i would believe it.
 

siegecrossbow

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I never believed anything from Reuters after their report of a Chinese Nuclear powered Submarine sinking without a ounce of evidence.

I didn't believe in that article, i'm not believing in this one either. Both provided not a single ounce of evidence.

Example if this one showed the debris / carcasses of the two Indian jet that was shot down or it source information from Indian military officials or Dassault then i would believe it.

Do you seriously think the Indians will admit to that? They have helicopter/tank losses from the 1962 war that they haven’t even acknowledged yet and the Chinese only knew about them only after they stumbled upon them in patrols.

If you are here to get a rise out of people, you are succeeding.
 
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