The General Iran thread

Finn McCool

Captain
Registered Member
Re: Iran's superweapon

Here comes Finn to save this thread from politics!

The effectiveness of this "Superweapon" is proportionate to the amount them they have. I doubt they have many. Rather than wasting their missles in an attack on a CBG that is likely to fail or at least not really slow the americans down, why don't the Iraninans do something that would be infinately more destructive to the US? They could fire these missles at the Ras Tafrana Oil Terminal and as many of the other major oil terminals in the area as they could. They sound like they are more than a match for a Pac-3. And with multiple warheads, the terminals would take a while to get up and running again. Along with the Gulf being closed and the destrucion of oil platforms in the Gulf this would send oil prices through the roof. They might want to sink a tanker of two just to add extra fear. Personaly this is how I believe the Iranians will counterattack. Very very hard to prevent, even with missles far less capable than the Iranians claim this one is. The US could put ships in the Gulf for extra SAM defence, but that would be risky, to say the least.
 

Baibar of Jalat

Junior Member
Re: Iran's superweapon

What sort of history books are you reading?

I will say it again..the US has had forces in the Gulf region for years. Did you know the US has a Navy base in Barhain? Do you really think the US will let a nation force them out of the Gulf? How would they accomplish that? I just do not see it happening. Perhaps you could come up with a sernerio that this would occur.

Sure Iran has weapons. Possible WMD. But do they have enough weapons to maintain a third ,fourth or fifth, etc... strike?

Stalin was a very bad man. Very bad. I hope you do not think of him as a hero.

Potentiol info is Inflammotory

:eek:ff Dont take my comments as literal try to see around the comment i know it is constructed in a very informal way but this is a informal website.

All them leaders above are not angels they have blood on their hands but depends on ur perspective. Washington was a terrorist to the british also he did not believe in Blacks achieveing equal rights, Churchill hated the idea of India gaining independence, even was willing to let Gandhi die on hunger strike,and i dont need to say everything about Mao, stanlin we know what they did.

I know u gonna criticise me heavily but these are historical perspectives personally got nothing against Washington and i admire Churchill (sir). Mao was a evil man but helped to get rid of European, American and Japanese imperialism. Thats why he is famous for.


Getting back to Iran some oposition group based in America saying large numbers of North Koreans are working in Iran sharing info on missiles. But you cannot trust these exiles completely.

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bd popeye

The Last Jedi
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Re: Iran's superweapon

Baibar, I fully understand your post and your point of view. With that we should return to our discussion on Iran.

Getting back to Iran some oposition group based in America saying large numbers of North Koreans are working in Iran sharing info on missiles. But you cannot trust these exiles completely.

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That's intresting..But remember before the War in Iraq a bunch of Iraqi scientist were paraded infront of the US Congress and UN spweeing the same sort of "information". So how much truth is involved in that article? Who knows? I would not be surprised if the info was 100% true.

I'm sure that Iran has some sort of very destructive missiles, torpedos etc, etc, etc, ..But just how much is anyones guess. I'm sure that US GPS techno wizardy is tracking all they can at this very moment.
 

DPRKPTboat

Junior Member
Re: Iran's superweapon

Iran always seems to be able to construct some sort of weapon indigenously. If you look at its arsenal, you'll see quite a few of its weapns are indigenous, such as the Zarquifar tank among others.But whether they have built a high speed underwater missiles that can evade radar is a fact that I'm not quite sure of. I'm sure Iraq made the same claims before it was invaded.

Heres an article on the Iranian missile launch:

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If Iran had enough of that missile, it could pse a threat to USN forces in the gulf. But calling it a superweapon is a bit extreme. You might as well call the sunburn or exocet superweapons. Unless this thing could be fitted with a chemical or nuclear warhead.
 

Baibar of Jalat

Junior Member
Re: Iran's superweapon

Most of the weapons are based on advance Russian and former Soviet tech, I am suprised the Russians are not getting more criticism then they should. But global politics is a complicated matter.

To some extent Iran needs Nuclear energy due to the fact that out of all the oil exporting nations Iran has still got a budget deficit, compared to the GCC and Venuzela :)o) are rolling in cash surpluses. Iran subsidise food,Oil and other costs associated with a welfare state. thus its need nuc energy to free oil up for export however Iran is partly itself to blame for being mistrusted.

What I relized it is best to work with the states then work against it. Look at the Chinese example. China and other east asian countries have to extent divised their own Marshal plan, they give the US cheap credit, the US keeps buying, thus East asians are allowed to build up their own industries and plus they get interest payments of US. Hence getting a good deal out of good relations with US.

If Iran had enough of that missile, it could pse a threat to USN forces in the gulf. But calling it a superweapon is a bit extreme. You might as well call the sunburn or exocet superweapons. Unless this thing could be fitted with a chemical or nuclear warhead.

Note at the end of my first post i said i deliberately made it sesationalist because it creates more discussion
 

utelore

Junior Member
VIP Professional
Re: Iran's superweapon

Goll my man, you are right...back on topic....I know very little about these superfast Torpedos. If fired at a mid sized ship at around 10 miles what is the hit prob? what is the launch platforms? Are they effected by decoys to any degree compared to normal torps?

And lastly does the PRC have these weapons and are they operational within the PRC?

I find these Torpedos an interesting subject to which I know little about...cheers ute
 

MIGleader

Banned Idiot
Re: Iran's superweapon

There have been reports of the PLAn aquring some russian skyvals in the 90/00's, but theres no substantial evidence to back that up,
 

caksz

New Member
Re: Iran's superweapon

they aim for a nuke to near future ... those new project just as changing the subject ... after obtaining nuke ... no one will invade them
 

coolieno99

Junior Member
Re: Iran's superweapon

bd popeye said:
Yes they've probally been testing something..But do you really think the US will keep it's CSG(Carrier Strike Group) out of the Persian Gulf because Iran says it fired this missile? I think not. There has been a USN presence in the Gulf with a CSG for many years. In fact the USS Ronald Reagan CVN-76 is in the Persian Gulf..right now...

Persian Gulf (March 15, 2006) - The Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76) prepares to make a port call in Jebel Ali, U.A.E. Reagan and embarked Carrier Air Wing One Four (CVW-14) are currently on a deployment conducting Maritime Security Operations (MSO) in support of the global war on terrorism.
Not a good idea to station a large carrier inside the Persian Gulf. Tactical advantage goes to diesel-electric Kilo sub in confined and relatively shallow gulf.:coffee:
 
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