The Civil War in Libya

Baibar of Jalat

Baibar of Jalat

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I did not know I had a account under yaz85k. I forgot my password thus a resent new one to registed email. I followed the instructions Blindly. I did not think you can register two different usernames under one email?

BTW how long as FinMcCool been a moderator?:D
 
Finn McCool

Finn McCool

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yaz85k said:
@FinMccool

The majority usually dont have a say. Its usually a small group of idealists that tend to get their way.

BTW, reports of western companies tagging alongside politicians are getting their slice of the pie in Libya. Liam Fox has been caught but hes not the only one involved in shady practises.

Tell me how many different armed factions are there. I count atleast a dozen. Eventually Al Qeada, will try to muscle in. The country has no real intelligence capability, all the militias have different goals and very poorly trained. The politicians of NTC are not really trusted apart from a few like Jalil. Countries with stronger instituations like in Pakistan, India and Algeria had semi decent intelligence and military took years of hard fighting then they got some success against their respective insurgents.

Western media will always portray the opposite because they have a bias towards to the rebels.
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What makes you say that there are "at least a dozen" armed factions in Libya? All of the rebel forces acknowledge the authority of the NTC and operate under a loose command structure. Different units come from different towns, and cooperate with each other on operations and guard their local areas.

One possible threat is growing in Niger. Qaddafi has a long history of working with (arming, funding etc.) Tuareg tribes and rebel groups in the nations to the south of Libya. In Niger, Tuareg tribesmen who fought for Qaddafi have been returning, freshly armed, and are organizing and threatening to restart their on again, off again struggle against the Niger government. This could definitely spill over into Libya.
 
Baibar of Jalat

Baibar of Jalat

Junior Member
Finn McCool said:
What makes you say that there are "at least a dozen" armed factions in Libya? All of the rebel forces acknowledge the authority of the NTC and operate under a loose command structure. Different units come from different towns, and cooperate with each other on operations and guard their local areas.

One possible threat is growing in Niger. Qaddafi has a long history of working with (arming, funding etc.) Tuareg tribes and rebel groups in the nations to the south of Libya. In Niger, Tuareg tribesmen who fought for Qaddafi have been returning, freshly armed, and are organizing and threatening to restart their on again, off again struggle against the Niger government. This could definitely spill over into Libya.
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I thought you were a keen libya watcher? Just does some googling on libyan factions.
Unlike like PRC, Vietnam and Cuba no one military group. I think its unwise to have so many competing groups that have no discipline, thanks to NATO these semi militias had success. In summary smells like Afghanistan after 1980s. Billions of dollars worth of bounty await the rebels.
 
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CardSharp

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Finn McCool said:
What makes you say that there are "at least a dozen" armed factions in Libya?
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Well I can't really say how many there are, but even a cursory reading of news headlines tells us there are at least two. The NATO backed rebels out of Benghazi and the Gulf State backed rebels out of the western mountain. One got stalled on the coastal road to Tripoli and the other took the city after the defection of a key Gaddafi brigade (some say bribed by Arab league money).

Finn McCool said:
All of the rebel forces acknowledge the authority of the NTC
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An argument for this being true can be made (barring some contrary evidence, like the assassination of Muhammad Yunus)


Finn McCool said:
and operate under a loose command structure.
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While this is just not true.
 
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no_name

Colonel
Anyone know if any of the rebel factiona actually have popular support or whether they just grabed some guns and support from west and becamed kings of the hills? (Like the warlords era of 20's, 30's china). Because if it is the latter I'm not too optimistic on their long term potential.
 
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no_name said:
Anyone know if any of the rebel factiona actually have popular support or whether they just grabed some guns and support from west and becamed kings of the hills? (Like the warlords era of 20's, 30's china). Because if it is the latter I'm not too optimistic on their long term potential.
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Well I think that vast majority of rebel organizations are essentially popular movements and there is no evidence they are more opportunistic than anyone else. The joke here is to say the NTC is at the head of them all and a reliable partner for NATO.
 
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MwRYum

MwRYum

Major
Now we all too familiar that the new Libyan gov't dish out false news, but if this is true, it'd mark a true turning point for the events in Libya...

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And yes looks like I'm the first who breaks it here...
 
Semi-Lobster

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Al-Jazeera is reporting that Gaddafi was killed when his last Stronghold, the Number 2 neighbourhood of Sirte, was taken by NTC forces. He was wounded in the firefight and captured but bled out from his wounds and died before getting to a field hospital.
 
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