All the so-called experts Westerners are putting on TV say they're underage.
I haven't seen them, so I can't care less about what they said.
The prejudice your'e using when you pick and choose information you want to believe from a source the West deems as notoriously unrelaible.
You're the one who is prejudiced, given you keep talking about "the West" as if every country that might fall into that term is the same.
As for the Chinese media, you know full well that it's criticised mostly for censorship and bias - the principle complaint is not that it gets people's ages wrong.
They're bigger than everyone everyone else and I'm not talking about height.
As I said, if other countries want to keep their athletes light by controlling their diet, that's their choice. But if the American coaches want to increase their calorie intake and send them to the gym because they think that's a better tactic, that is also their choice.
Maybe you're a dentist now along a gymnastic expert.
I have never held myself out to be an expert. Don't sulk because someone else might know more than you do about a subject.
Now you admit that US olympians are suspect with the Flo-Jo. There's more around that time accuse of the same thing. American athletes are clean, huh?
Oh, so ALL American athletes are dirty or suspect because of Flo-Jo (not "the Flo-Jo")? Is that what you are saying?
female athletes that start from a young age doing suffer from a form of age-stopping. Many female athletes don't get their periods until they stop training and for some that's not until their 20s. Another fact about gymnasts is that they are unnaturally short.
There is short compared to normal people, and short for a gymnast - that's the point. And none of that would explain the teeth matter.
One the Chinese gymasts whose age is in question was taller than Shawn Johnson.
Have accusations of cheating said that ALL the gymnasts were under age?
Michael Phelps hasn't gotten criticism from Chinese because there were no Chinese in a position for contention for his medal. So again you show your lack of knowlegdge.
No, you show your inability to read what I write. I said clearly:
how many events have China been surprised to lose to someone in a gold medal final?
If China did not expect to win a gold when Phelps did in that event, why would the Chinese team call him a cheat?
What does their training regime have to do with cheating?
Because that shows that SOME ARTICLES have said the swimmer won because of training, not cheating - when you've been making generalisations about foreign media bias.
Are you really going to contradict yourself again when you yourself have pointed out Flo-Jo.
Do you read what I write, or just make a snap judgment?
Chinese female swimmers have not had a good medal record if you remove the cheats. That is why a new Chinese swimmer without much/any previous international wins/form will be suspect.
You do know that Olympic athletes are immediately drawn specimens for testing right after their competition ends?
So? You don't need to use drugs during a competition to benefit - during training is enough.
Winning a lot of medals is proof that people haven't cheated?
No, it's a reason why people don't get accused of cheating because of where they come from. If a country has good form in a sport, new athletes are under less suspicion.
And US athletes have been exposed as cheating. Are you in denial again. We've gone through this before.
Yes, and I've never said US athletes have never been exposed as cheats. Why the hell do you think I mentioned Flo-Jo?
Notice that article doesn't have a name to confirm this story?
Sure, give out her name so that she can be kicked off the course for exposing what goes on......
We've already gone through this bit about you believing in notorious unreliable sources when you chose to.
And as I said, criticism is not primarily factual stuff but bias and censorship.
I think it's already proven that you're in no position to lecture anyone with all your errors and denials you've shown here.
Any errors I have made are tiny compared to the fact that you are unable (or unwillng) to read my comments properly and don't even seem to know who is who in gymnastics.
On denials, you have made up nonsense about how I have claimed all Americans are clean.
The IOC doesn't have final say in their own Olympics?
First, it isn't "their Olympics" - they don't own it. As far as I understand they govern by convention. But in any case, they don't control all the sports. They let the governing bodies for those sports get on with it, though they might liaise.
I've read that the IOC checked previous records they've obtained that is consistent with what those very passports.
Great - post the articles and quote the material (translated if in Chinese for the non-Chinese speakers in the forum, please).
