Terror attack in Xinjiang

AssassinsMace said:

It's China! China doesn't go around the world holding out romantic idealism as to justify dictating to the world what's best for everyone else. The only people that are going to complain are Western countries that say they don't do such things. I hope you're not suggesting hypocrisy on my part... I don't care what the US needs to do what it sees as necessary. Just don't lie that they don't do it or tell others they can't do it themselves. That's the hypocrisy. That's what I have an issue with.

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thunderchief said:

Let's be blunt about this: China is targeted buy Islamic terror groups. There is no point in beating around the bush - if you want to fight them you have to name them. Most of these groups are training in Pakistan, and their members have been indoctrinated in local deobandi and wahhabi madrasas , funded with Saudi money. Pakistani authorities are turning blind eye because they to receive generous "donations" from Saudis. China basically has two options: 1. either to pressure Pakistani government to do something about this or 2. to reconsider its special relationship with this country.

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Trouble in Xinjiang


An explosion ripped through a crowded marketplace in Xinjiang province, China, on Thursday at a time when the place was filled to the brim with innocent civilians. The attack resulted in some 30 people killed and close to 100 injured. It was a surprise attack even though Xinjiang is known as a troubled and restive region. Attacks in the past have comprised of strikes against government officials and the police, symbols of authority. However, Thursday’s attack in a market place in the regional capital of Urumqi betrays the change in strategy, organisation and targeting of civilians instead of key power figures. Xinjiang is in the midst of the separatist struggle by Uighur separatists — Turkic Islamist militants — who refuse to accept that the province is a part of China. They are waging their war to exert their belief that Xinjiang is actually East Turkistan and not China. One does not have to stress that the Chinese authorities are not happy about the volatile situation in its territory. An attack against civilians no matter where is one that needs to be condemned at all levels, from the government down. However, as with the case of terrorism anywhere, it needs to be tackled in a way where a political solution and consensus is sought to address the grievances, real or perceived, of the Uighur people.

Pakistan of all places should know what the government in China is going through and the measures that need to be taken to quell the movement, which goes by the name of the East Turkestan Independence Movement (ETIM). During the Afghan war, Pakistan has unfortunately played host to militants of all Islamic hues and colours, violating our sovereignty and launching attacks on another country. There is no doubt that the conflict in Xinjiang has some roots in our tribal areas. It is of paramount importance that the government in Pakistan do something about the refuge given to militants in our tribal areas, especially when it comes to China, a country that has always stayed true to its relationship with Pakistan. China has remained an ally through thick and thin and we cannot afford to offend it by giving any kind of sanctuary to militants causing trouble in Xinjiang. Whether it is Afghanistan or China, we need to do a lot of troubleshooting to fix relations with our neighbouring countries. *

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thunderchief said:

Let's be blunt about this: China is targeted buy Islamic terror groups. There is no point in beating around the bush - if you want to fight them you have to name them. Most of these groups are training in Pakistan, and their members have been indoctrinated in local deobandi and wahhabi madrasas , funded with Saudi money. Pakistani authorities are turning blind eye because they to receive generous "donations" from Saudis. China basically has two options: 1. either to pressure Pakistani government to do something about this or 2. to reconsider its special relationship with this country.

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AssassinsMace said:

Let's also not forget that what the terrorists in China do is different from the terrorists that target the West. Terrorists against the West are direct against those that they see have wronged them to obtain what they want. In China, terrorists are hoping to get outside sympathetic attention to get them to pressure China to give them what they want. There are others just as easy to blame than Pakistan for terrorism in China.

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Blackstone said:

Xinjing Uyghers certainly feel wronged by China and have grudges against the Han people and Qing, Republic, and CCP governments for hundreds of years. Uyghers may have new tactics and allies, but the underlying grievances for terror go back centuries.

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thunderchief said:

I would like to point two things :

- Don't underestimate these terrorists. Although they appear to be armed mostly with knives and home-made bombs, they managed to mount four deadly attacks since October . 9/11 attackers had only plastic knives and look what they did .

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Equation said:

No excuses for terrorizing and killing innocent people. I don't care what one's ill feelings is. The world is not going to bend to one's needs and wishes through violence. They can live peacefully in the PRC as citizens or they leave, it's that simple. Don't expect anyone to carve them out a country because they felt entitle due to "feeling wronged" by someone.

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Blackstone said:

Xinjing Uyghers certainly feel wronged by China and have grudges against the Han people and Qing, Republic, and CCP governments for hundreds of years. Uyghers may have new tactics and allies, but the underlying grievances for terror go back centuries.

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Jeff Head said:

I haven't lied, Assassinsmace, and I certainly did not imply at all that you were hypocritical. Nothing at all like that was intended.

I simply made a comment about this type of thing.

It does not matter who is doing it. If you concentrate too much power in one place, it will invariably be used badly. Absolute power corrupts absolutely...no matter which nation, which party, etc., etc.

That's all.

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