Probably sitting in the Japan Sea and Philippine Sea. Need a buffer between the first and second island chains.
Taiwan Military News, Reports, Data, etc.
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Yep, the DPP tends to use the taiwan equivalent of the Environmental Protection Agency to shake down corporate donors; getting hassled by environmental groups? Better make a donation to the DPP. Problem solved.
DPP will suck up to anyone they need to survive of course. DPP also counts on the younger voters who think they are honorary westerners as well, same as the cockroaches in HK. Most of the younger voters also believe in these liberal “one big happy democratic family” ideas. You know these ideas were conceived to create a false sense of unity after dismantling the traditional family, religion, moral values, etc. since those are “conservative”. Pretty much in the same vein of Marx’s beliefs, but without the class struggle ideology.
DPP’s success does matter. You see a few posts ago how top military officers are selling out. Let’s not pretend that they are pure ideologues, but if they believe in one China at all (which is the official stance of the ROC military), then it makes it that much easier to justify defying the DPP.
Beyond that, there is a hope that young DPP will be DPP forever and eventually create the right environment to gestate a true mass independence movement and thus draw PRC into a costly conflict.
A “mass movement” that reject martial prowess deemed not PC, alienating the traditional Chinese culture and values and embrace PC and EMMA qualities and Karens in their ranks, plus teaching their youths to be like that. I see no harm for them to shoot themselves in the feet.
I can see the increase of these youth voters making the Taiwanese politics so toxic that more of their firms relocate to mainland. Another bonus if u ask me.
Mr T
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Putting your personal circumstances aside, I would observe that very, very few people on this forum have voluntarily served with the militaries of any nation, including the PLA. Some people here talk a big game but oddly enough don't follow through.
Also the talk of "martial prowess" is a bit of a loaded term. It makes me think less about someone who might do a physical activity for fun but rather an outdated view as to what makes a "real man" (and presumably what a woman's place is). So let's stick to news rather than discussions on society and how it should be evolving.
On the subject of news, a poll was released last month on how willing Taiwanese are to fight against a Chinese attack.
Over 70% of Taiwanese would fight a Chinese invasion (falling by about 10% if Taiwan made a UDI). As for young Taiwanese, they were the most willing to fight, which would mean their response were over the average 70%.
Now you can say that you don't believe the polling, but in the absence of contrary polling for the same period I see no reason to disbelieve it.
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Lol do you really believe these polls?
They are always all about talk and boasting.
The moment the PLA sets foot in Taiwan, and tanks starts rolling in then that's it.
"70% will fight the PLA"
made me chucklePeople in Taiwan are not stupid enough to really push the switch when their benefactor has already shown there true colors in Afghanistan although the leader of Taiwan is looking to pull a Ghani anyway which could end poorly if done at a poor time although this woman cannot see the writing in the wall so who knowsLol do you really believe these polls?
They are always all about talk and boasting.
The moment the PLA sets foot in Taiwan, and tanks starts rolling in then that's it.
"70% will fight the PLA"
Mr T
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Not really. Certainly polls from around five years ago showed lower numbers of Taiwanese willing to fight. If they were fake or responses not truthful they'd always have the same results.
Not that any poll result is binding, but it's at least as useful as the bluster one sees on military forums about how manly people are and how they'd go fight for Country X if needed (just don't ask them to sign up now).
Last time I checked the US provided most of Afghanistan's security for 20 years - longer than the Soviets - with thousands of US personnel killed and tens of thousands wounded. No one on this forum predicted the US staying so long.
China's military planning will almost certainly assume there will be a US response. The only question will be whether, in the event of an attack on Taiwan, the PLA attacks US bases first, or, to avoid a Pearl Harbour US political backlash, doesn't make a first strike and gives US forces time to respond.
And President Tsai has indicated that the chances of a UDI are zero, as she has stated Taiwan is already independent. So Taiwan is unlikely to "push the switch" to give Beijing an excuse to attack - the ball is in the CCP's court.